Received: from mail-wg0-f57.google.com ([74.125.82.57]:33665) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz7zH-00085j-Tp for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:29:36 -0700 Received: by wggy19 with SMTP id y19sf34591123wgg.0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=EH5ZXdxZW+xsP5tlHwSeogUVybCCzNjuDGjrpdq2oUE=; b=F9NPDuwKfgCx5tu8QWN3+dbgc8+uJJrOTKx62nGtXP5sfAjmn/CcJrQZ6dBfEN0BMG ZkamHg5AG6u2Yt1PzekBvUNZ+EzJbbPMbN8H3xwn7N9pVXrBs399fwbmV53rKSXXlTKS 1yUuN5xHwHwVBBQxee64/4+CAZlQTMrkL6Eja1EwH9knC+ZhbJ3ldRmdj+kgrL7h/K/J lDilnxLwlHZAdH4NW0SOiGetU29GKL3kOq0RUoAKl/wyAuoWlKvq7dqmkB5BCEDYNK9O KLfl/V1iSDCdl1vD2kAbPru39NCnwc/cumr9O4yiS3g3z4majDaJ9UKp4nE9I1KU86fn 39uw== X-Received: by 10.152.37.168 with SMTP id z8mr205321laj.4.1433096955874; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.225.134 with SMTP id rk6ls554720lac.83.gmail; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.148.101 with SMTP id tr5mr17323037lbb.13.1433096955317; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2si395056wif.0.2015.05.31.11.29.15 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 31 May 2015 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c; Received: by mail-wi0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id mx19so53184811wic.0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.75.48 with SMTP id z16mr13561221wiv.49.1433096955113; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.26.17 with HTTP; Sun, 31 May 2015 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <065e8366-5916-4138-bcb2-7aabeb103874@googlegroups.com> References: <21d0528e-7ece-41ca-a9e3-f57b22cc3f43@googlegroups.com> <5b024e4f-ca63-4c0b-96fe-68f003b49963@googlegroups.com> <065e8366-5916-4138-bcb2-7aabeb103874@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 15:29:15 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Proposal: loi lerfu tcita detri; the final word on the problem of dates and times? From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04389519f036ce051764e236 X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --f46d04389519f036ce051764e236 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) < spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote: > You can use the lerfu "mu bu" and "ci bu". >> > > That would make digit-heavy character-strings extremely clunky. Besides, > if we're going to have to define a new selma'o anyway to retain > compatibility, it might as well be MEhO. > Or just use "lo'u" if what we want is just a string of characters without any internal grammar. But li/me'o take a mathematical expression, not just any character-string, one returns an expression and the other returns its value. It would be strange for them to have different grammars, because then you couldn't distinguish the value from expression by just choosing "li" or "me'o". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --f46d04389519f036ce051764e236 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) <sphenisc= ine@gmail.com> wrote:
You can use the lerfu "m= u bu" and "ci bu".=C2=A0

That would make digit-heavy character-strings extremely clunky. Bes= ides, if we're going to have to define a new selma'o anyway to reta= in compatibility, it might as well be MEhO.

Or just use "lo'u" if what we want is just a= string of characters without any internal grammar. But li/me'o take a = mathematical expression, not just any character-string, one returns an expr= ession and the other returns its value. It would be strange for them to hav= e different grammars, because then you couldn't distinguish the value f= rom expression by just choosing "li" or "me'o".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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