Received: from mail-lb0-f184.google.com ([209.85.217.184]:32867) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz8Za-0008Sc-AM for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:07:07 -0700 Received: by lbdu14 with SMTP id u14sf34384952lbd.0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:06:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=NDcCePV9nBHEF9do5wF1TErgSep+LCJexYgM3DsWipM=; b=iVCB8kyRqNX1WSOT75yb+VCJZRxXNaucGjwDiF7dWubK6P1j01m2Vww/g1H3mIvUbd qgiieS5YwFQSQjL1hc1DtJGSSRZ4ahsO84WYbJ4H5A8H/W+iNL0qmsgbIJ3FcXO+ttGq LIXSwYAfKCDVvB/UHjVENz3ydpNM6XMNR6080Df6Akd2lNtxPEwb2NBTVXjiHUwREAd7 qyBJAId2m9so14BlMASfgUfurmXrvCjwsCSisNklPb2Oq7J4xfYiJNgRYwmTCP6o32Ao cessV+nz/eXIr8JLPj5n7nWFlUQYche68j0pVG8rphxsPJ6pRtqbu8FCBb7YtINT9pHp bm4w== X-Received: by 10.152.44.135 with SMTP id e7mr201237lam.23.1433099215291; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:06:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.27.10 with SMTP id p10ls578476lag.29.gmail; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:06:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.8.17 with SMTP id n17mr17311274laa.0.1433099214608; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com (mail-wg0-x22b.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gt9si393877wib.2.2015.05.31.12.06.54 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 31 May 2015 12:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b; Received: by mail-wg0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id z8so98512531wge.0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:06:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.109.229 with SMTP id hv5mr35080073wjb.119.1433099214517; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:06:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Sun, 31 May 2015 12:06:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <21d0528e-7ece-41ca-a9e3-f57b22cc3f43@googlegroups.com> <5b024e4f-ca63-4c0b-96fe-68f003b49963@googlegroups.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 22:06:33 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Proposal: loi lerfu tcita detri; the final word on the problem of dates and times? To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b60441a9bfd6c0517656966 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7b60441a9bfd6c0517656966 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2015-05-31 21:07 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas : > > > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) < > spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> "me'o" and "li" are in the same selma'o, so the issue is the same for >>> both. >>> >> >> Under your proposal they wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) be, because >> me'o is used for arbitrary character strings. How else will you be able = to >> spell out a password like "utT53fpB"? >> > > You can use the lerfu "mu bu" and "ci bu". > > Could someone please correct this proposal to match this proposed grammar but while being still gendra currently? mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7b60441a9bfd6c0517656966 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2015-05-31 21:07 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.co= m>:


On= Sun, May 31, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) &l= t;spheniscine@gm= ail.com> wrote:

"me'o" and "li" are i= n the same selma'o, so the issue is the same for both.

Under your proposal they wouldn= 9;t (or at least shouldn't) be, because me'o is used for arbitrary = character strings. How else will you be able to spell out a password like &= quot;utT53fpB"?

You= can use the lerfu "mu bu" and "ci bu".=C2=A0


=

Could someone please correct this proposal to mat= ch this proposed grammar but while being still gendra currently?
=
mu= 9;o mi'e xorxes

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