Received: from mail-qk0-f190.google.com ([209.85.220.190]:33800) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YzArY-00020W-VC for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:33:50 -0700 Received: by qkca135 with SMTP id a135sf28948058qkc.1 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:33:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=Q4cGSTjzGdtrq/+Tdm6Ag5F0QWIMXBrfm+GMZYTKDLA=; b=NxBxhdXeVjZviXgAhpy7F8tutRM/JCvQkDARkYVOUrl4UFrE5NU3xyju2MdN6HKZAN xZ2dvdbYr6lisrGQdaJ2PTPqelTr8zY2sxtlxakDXGhf/fdV7OGvTQshGh/FtbFTDTsE aYKF4iDpVASrU4KHxSyBpk/GOy9LBU23Fq/VS9BhoIhZtCJHkqwzSO30MFgieGsScR7+ lRruGvE2YV5hZvwkF8IO4b43pwQHdyVDPYs6m7yeQV2hWMqiGx0a+9Cf7dHsXdhnsB7u XAErObnZ1unsgfkxzw0K1Dj1S7kKD02cnB9XPyNuCHhf0iaR+RMoJKTHo2R0suTh91jv l/6w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=Q4cGSTjzGdtrq/+Tdm6Ag5F0QWIMXBrfm+GMZYTKDLA=; b=oa0/khUw5P5o8igfq95BXgsPqi6PIO3eUOZ7F30S4zvso/6CRFx6FCelEC9ptdz5b5 EMirFIGKhfLCGPvaF0whFdHZSUz6ejnWEHDlux0LO2TxTYud6qFRihKvju9MAmXhT07X a6GvcoCksFTz3VYG6Xamn7kT31vWpOAK0fhkcGSxWc0Y0UQ89gU6Zm1juLhUVoZI1tJT 7ejU3YwpkxqDFYH/2UuH5kpv82stf8hIei/vw9kQaYBYya0OZxKlUDOHoT0wUmSCqhxV TZP1PlNENqNnQnHfH9QN6vpI95Syqh5hoVgzd3w9NFE4JtYTNe6HD6qpIF/f6lXnqnIb dYSQ== X-Received: by 10.50.61.193 with SMTP id s1mr100795igr.10.1433108018682; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:33:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.50.208 with SMTP id e16ls758173igo.4.gmail; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:33:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.39.2 with SMTP id l2mr101376igk.6.1433108018272; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 14:33:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Spheniscine (la zipcpi)" To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <59be743c-a3e2-4862-89b2-f94b927ff75e@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <21d0528e-7ece-41ca-a9e3-f57b22cc3f43@googlegroups.com> <5b024e4f-ca63-4c0b-96fe-68f003b49963@googlegroups.com> <065e8366-5916-4138-bcb2-7aabeb103874@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Proposal: loi lerfu tcita detri; the final word on the problem of dates and times? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1685_1464407057.1433108016890" X-Original-Sender: spheniscine@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- ------=_Part_1685_1464407057.1433108016890 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1686_2126812379.1433108016890" ------=_Part_1686_2126812379.1433108016890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Or just use "lo'u" if what we want is just a string of characters without > any internal grammar. But li/me'o take a mathematical expression, not just > any character-string, one returns an expression and the other returns its > value. It would be strange for them to have different grammars, because > then you couldn't distinguish the value from expression by just choosing > "li" or "me'o". {ienai}. {me'o dy ubu ry ky abu vo re} -> "durka42" {lo'u dy ubu ry ky abu vo re le'u} -> "dy ubu ry ky abu vo re" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1686_2126812379.1433108016890 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Or just use "lo'u" if what we= want is just a string of characters without any internal grammar. But li/m= e'o take a mathematical expression, not just any character-string, one retu= rns an expression and the other returns its value. It would be strange for = them to have different grammars, because then you couldn't distinguish the = value from expression by just choosing "li" or "me'o".
{ienai}. 

{me'o dy ubu ry ky abu = vo re} -> "durka42"
{lo'u dy ubu ry ky abu vo re le'u} -> "= dy ubu ry ky abu vo re"

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