Received: from mail-vn0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:34014) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2GNc-0006LU-Ur for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 03:04:08 -0700 Received: by vnbf190 with SMTP id f190sf3292707vnb.1 for ; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 03:03:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=crvYeYYUBPgoBdtQGvLlDM38sI0WaA7z8kvWtAKR/fA=; b=sTPRk/Ibe2Yqr4rZtCjh3VtG/AGchCIgZGGFgB+ZMgmcSSKu7DdC8EkguCX9hkS3s2 QAyLMdtu/wbkdo59VWx2pUr93qcUoY03Y1rkAUOWaBJqjOn8dDlUHmEZeqkTfIo+y2nm aiLl8bF8ZbMJ/J9jRv+QtyPLdxCNURApHiD9R/uHNHX3ksWs5XgU3wGj7VvzvRfYq3po P8vvf50JX/PrzUiEQVu/nr7YXUEUFZZaaUaX3hwIrTR1kl7Ac5FSlZ2D8lWjtHieAz/N QTIfPWdnAraT8y+q3HvFjpucJKs3h6p/sje7EvLbYLKa3byMV0nUsR0IvpVhX/bZX1vc ZLFw== X-Received: by 10.50.136.166 with SMTP id qb6mr261056igb.2.1433844210953; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 03:03:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.3.158 with SMTP id e30ls186341ioi.83.gmail; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 03:03:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.66.66 with SMTP id d2mr5028862pat.5.1433844210535; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 03:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ig0-x22d.google.com (mail-ig0-x22d.google.com. [2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ns5si134601igb.0.2015.06.09.03.03.30 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jun 2015 03:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22d; Received: by mail-ig0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id pi8so8014199igb.1 for ; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 03:03:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.66.174 with SMTP id g14mr19193187igt.7.1433844210414; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 03:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.18.135 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 03:03:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6e9a189d-02de-45be-8427-55c6ecbe2cb2@googlegroups.com> References: <6e9a189d-02de-45be-8427-55c6ecbe2cb2@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 12:03:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "General you"? From: Remo Dentato To: lojban Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc0ee4d33d34051812deec X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7bdc0ee4d33d34051812deec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You mean in sentences like "if you take the bus, you'll surely be late?". If that is in the sense that "taking bus will cause being late" I would use an abstraction. I can't think of other examples, at the moment. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) < spheniscine@gmail.com> wrote: > I have recently become aware of my use of {do} for the "general you" and I > don't think that's good; it's a common source of confusion in English. {doi > ma}? Perhaps {lo'e prenu} (lo su'a prenu?) is better, but I wonder if > something in KOhA7 might be useful? (maybe one of Curtis' infamous zmico > already means that; but I can't understand their descriptions) > > By the way in English, I think I'll try to use the word "one" instead of > the general-you; it's a lost art. I can't tell you* how many times I've > accidentally insulted people with the "general you". > > *can't tell one? 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You mean in sentences like "if you take the= bus, you'll surely be late?".

If that is in the sens= e that "taking bus will cause being late" I would use an abstract= ion.

I can't think of other examples, at the moment.
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