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2015-02-02 13:16 GMT+03:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:

> We assume that Stage 0 was publishing by LLG initial gismu.txt and
> cmavo.txt wordlists.
> The following Stage 1 of writing the Dictionary (link
> <https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/88nTUW0N5Oo/discussion>, most
> of the discussion is by xorxes and gleki) showed
> A. which te sumti variable types should exist in Lojban
> B. how they interact.
>
> Here, at stage 2 we deal with the following tasks:
> 1. rethink variable types system based on drawbacks of the one from Stage
> 1. Find rules for resolving variable types conflicts (assigning a value o=
f
> one type to a te sumti of another type; aka =E2=80=9Csumti-raising/loweri=
ng=E2=80=9D etc.)
> 2. polish out specifying te sumti interactions within every given brivla
> 3. rewrite definitions of most important cmavo (ignoring less used cmavo)=
.
> ignore rarely used sumti based on =E2=80=9Comitted sumti is {zo=E2=80=99e=
 ja zi=E2=80=99o}, not
> {zo=E2=80=99e}=E2=80=9D assumption, add useful place keywords (translatin=
g them as nouns or
> adjectives)
> 4. provide usage examples for EVERY SUMTI of EVERY BRIVLA and for cmavo.
> 5. Using Google Spreadsheet formulae implement autogeneration of a
> print-ready dictionary from the spreadsheet. Make the spreadsheet more
> friendly for future translators of it to other languages.
> Stage 2 result: http://mw.lojban.org/lmw/La_Bangu:_one-page_vlaste
> Stage 2 explanation: http://mw.lojban.org/lmw/La_Bangu:_dictionary
>
>
>
http://mw.lojban.org/papri/L17-04


The first preliminary version of the core wordlist. It lists only
translations of nouns, i.e. words starting with {lo}. Verb forms of core
words and particles are not in the list yet.
The source is here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19faXeZCUuZ_uL6qcpQdMhetTXiKc5ZsOcZk=
YiAZ_pRw/edit#gid=3D1979652479

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2015-02-02 13:16 GMT+03:00 Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,20=
4);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>We assum=
e that Stage 0 was publishing by LLG initial gismu.txt and cmavo.txt wordli=
sts.</div><div>The following Stage 1 of writing the Dictionary (<a href=3D"=
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/88nTUW0N5Oo/discussion" target=3D"=
_blank">link</a>, most of the discussion is by xorxes and gleki) showed=C2=
=A0</div><div>A. which te sumti variable types should exist in Lojban</div>=
<div>B. how they interact.</div><div><br></div><div>Here, at stage 2 we dea=
l with the following tasks:</div><div>1. rethink variable types system base=
d on drawbacks of the one from Stage 1. Find rules for resolving variable t=
ypes conflicts (assigning a value of one type to a te sumti of another type=
; aka =E2=80=9Csumti-raising/lowering=E2=80=9D etc.)</div><div>2. polish ou=
t specifying te sumti interactions within every given brivla</div><div>3. r=
ewrite definitions of most important cmavo (ignoring less used cmavo). igno=
re rarely used sumti based on =E2=80=9Comitted sumti is {zo=E2=80=99e ja zi=
=E2=80=99o}, not {zo=E2=80=99e}=E2=80=9D assumption, add useful place keywo=
rds (translating them as nouns or adjectives)</div><div>4. provide usage ex=
amples for EVERY SUMTI of EVERY BRIVLA and for cmavo.</div><div>5. Using Go=
ogle Spreadsheet formulae implement autogeneration of a print-ready diction=
ary from the spreadsheet. Make the spreadsheet more friendly for future tra=
nslators of it to other languages.</div><div>Stage 2 result: <a href=3D"htt=
p://mw.lojban.org/lmw/La_Bangu:_one-page_vlaste" target=3D"_blank">http://m=
w.lojban.org/lmw/La_Bangu:_one-page_vlaste</a></div><div>Stage 2 explanatio=
n: <a href=3D"http://mw.lojban.org/lmw/La_Bangu:_dictionary" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://mw.lojban.org/lmw/La_Bangu:_dictionary</a></div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://mw.l=
ojban.org/papri/L17-04">http://mw.lojban.org/papri/L17-04</a><br><br></div>=
<div><br></div><div>The first preliminary version of the core wordlist. It =
lists only translations of nouns, i.e. words starting with {lo}. Verb forms=
 of core words and particles are not in the list yet.<br>The source is here=
:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19faXeZCUuZ_uL6qcp=
QdMhetTXiKc5ZsOcZkYiAZ_pRw/edit#gid=3D1979652479">https://docs.google.com/s=
preadsheets/d/19faXeZCUuZ_uL6qcpQdMhetTXiKc5ZsOcZkYiAZ_pRw/edit#gid=3D19796=
52479</a></div></div></div></div>

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