Received: from mail-wg0-f64.google.com ([74.125.82.64]:34083) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2QKm-00077L-Lj for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:41:28 -0700 Received: by wggx12 with SMTP id x12sf9905791wgg.1 for ; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:41:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=SY5TMSBW8pFPlDHde6WbOLJdPeZo1xZJkYfSqmXblYE=; b=fJv0QoTCMd05t8yx/1sVInxGYfWFA6mm8Skyhgpi850LkrwnoFKARpRKVtFwOtOM6+ rXHJFXFRDvRJPuRTnjGeGkGx3Ht7gVeSbB1bj0v1O85djz/wkkaWFsIB0LPgETRWeAZn /5CrRS9mR3k5BWKzB+W4BECNtm+U0qH4qJtfNdYWfEeuDxDClcSRlkDw5TgVhyrDR2e2 Ah/MX36l0hAqpCRk4ICX8zaSY3lKalt8oQrEoNSES2M3/Zd9M8g/Z3d1oBiCX0MWvNdI F9AxjZjuX4s7/dzIaPxzw3NvTG25fXBrRimAgbY37Cro9WCSTZvxr4cG/MNY6FoqyOmP gocQ== X-Received: by 10.152.6.40 with SMTP id x8mr266358lax.40.1433882473169; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:41:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.20.103 with SMTP id m7ls146009lae.79.gmail; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:41:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.142.67 with SMTP id ru3mr22241725lbb.1.1433882472558; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x244.google.com (mail-wi0-x244.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::244]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k10si152932wia.1.2015.06.09.13.41.12 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::244 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::244; Received: by mail-wi0-x244.google.com with SMTP id z2so6171946wiv.0 for ; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:41:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.103.2 with SMTP id fs2mr45729949wjb.151.1433882472463; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.26.17 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 13:41:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6e9a189d-02de-45be-8427-55c6ecbe2cb2@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 17:41:12 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "General you"? From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d84a86bc37505181bc7af X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::244 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.0 X-Spam_score_int: -29 X-Spam_bar: --- --089e010d84a86bc37505181bc7af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 5:31 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > When I pointed out the indefinite 'you' in a Klingon example (bIje'be'chugh > vaj bIHegh - If you don't buy, then you die; buy or die!), the rest of > the Klingon list membership considered it just fine, as if it were just an > example of regular 'you'. Maybe it is. > It could be either. If it means that anyone who doesn't buy dies, then it's general. If it means that this only applies to you in particular, (you have to buy, but if John doesn't buy, he's fine) then it's not general. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e010d84a86bc37505181bc7af Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 5:31 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
When I pointed out the= indefinite 'you' in a Klingon example (bIje'be'chugh vaj bIHegh - I= f you don't buy, then you die; buy or die!), the rest of the Kli= ngon list membership considered it just fine, as if it were just an example= of regular 'you'. Maybe it is.=C2=A0
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It could be either. If it means that anyone who doesn't = buy dies, then it's general. If it means that this only applies to you = in particular, (you have to buy, but if John doesn't buy, he's fine= ) then it's not general.=C2=A0

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