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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 22:02:26 +0100
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Subject: Re: [lojban] "General you"?
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On 9 Jun 2015 21:41, "Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas" <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 5:31 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> When I pointed out the indefinite 'you' in a Klingon example
(bIje'be'chugh vaj bIHegh - If you don't buy, then you die; buy or die!),
the rest of the Klingon list membership considered it just fine, as if it
were just an example of regular 'you'. Maybe it is.
>
>
> It could be either. If it means that anyone who doesn't buy dies, then
it's general. If it means that this only applies to you in particular, (you
have to buy, but if John doesn't buy, he's fine) then it's not general.

But in that conditional construction, it could still be you-in-particular
yet have the general interpretation. For example I can say "If my name is
Jorge, I'm probably a hispanophone" both idiomatically and truthfully.

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<p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On 9 Jun 2015 21:41, &quot;Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 5:31 PM, MorphemeAddict &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:l=
ytlesw@gmail.com">lytlesw@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; When I pointed out the indefinite &#39;you&#39; in a Klingon examp=
le (bIje&#39;be&#39;chugh vaj bIHegh - If you don&#39;t buy, then you die; =
buy or die!), the rest of the Klingon list membership considered it just fi=
ne, as if it were just an example of regular &#39;you&#39;. Maybe it is.=C2=
=A0<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It could be either. If it means that anyone who doesn&#39;t buy dies, =
then it&#39;s general. If it means that this only applies to you in particu=
lar, (you have to buy, but if John doesn&#39;t buy, he&#39;s fine) then it&=
#39;s not general.=C2=A0</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">But in that conditional construction, it could still be you-=
in-particular yet have the general interpretation. For example I can say &q=
uot;If my name is Jorge, I&#39;m probably a hispanophone&quot; both idiomat=
ically and truthfully.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">--And.</p>

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