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[2607:f8b0:4002:c07::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g126si431073ywb.3.2015.06.27.21.45.56 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4002:c07::236; Received: by mail-yk0-x236.google.com with SMTP id y125so90371689ykf.1 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:45:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.170.143.213 with SMTP id k204mr11177251ykc.91.1435466756565; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:45:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.95.68 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:45:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1953879.lvDy3JjoGk@caracal> References: <1953879.lvDy3JjoGk@caracal> From: Michael Turniansky Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 00:45:17 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] x3 of sezlu'i To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1139909c1cb21e05198ca63c X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1139909c1cb21e05198ca63c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I agree... this goes all the way back to noralujv, but yeah. Of course, you could use a sepi'o piece, but it doesn't explain why the coiner thought to lose L4 in the first place. On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > Deuteronomy 23 (va is the Hebrew numbering, v the Gentile numbering): > \va 11 \v 10 .i lo da'i nanmu poi naljinsa ri'a lo nicte fasnu cu .ei > barkla > lo ginka gi'enai nerkla lo ginka > \va 12 \v 11 .i ca lo vanci ra sezlu'i fi lo djacu .i ca lo solnuncanci ra > nerkla lo ginka > > According to jbovlaste, {sezlu'i} has x1, which is both x1 and x2 of > {lumci}, > and x2, which is x3 of {lumci}. x4 of {lumci} is missing. In this verse, a > man > washes himself with water (lo ve lumci, lo fi'a sezlu'i?). What he washes > off is > not specified (presumably whatever he got on himself during the night). > Shouldn't {sezlu'i} have a place for the stuff (water) that he uses to wash > himself? > > Pierre > -- > Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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=C2=A0 I agree... this goes all the way back to noralujv, = but yeah.=C2=A0 Of course, you could use a sepi'o piece, but it doesn&#= 39;t explain why the coiner thought to lose L4 in the =C2=A0first place.

On Sun, Jun 28= , 2015 at 12:13 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:<= br>
Deuteronomy 23 (va is the Hebrew numberin= g, v the Gentile numbering):
\va 11 \v 10 .i lo da'i nanmu poi naljinsa ri'a lo nicte fasnu cu .= ei barkla
lo ginka gi'enai nerkla lo ginka
\va 12 \v 11 .i ca lo vanci ra sezlu'i fi lo djacu .i ca lo solnuncanci= ra
nerkla lo ginka

According to jbovlaste, {sezlu'i} has x1, which is both x1 and x2 of {l= umci},
and x2, which is x3 of {lumci}. x4 of {lumci} is missing. In this verse, a = man
washes himself with water (lo ve lumci, lo fi'a sezlu'i?). What he = washes off is
not specified (presumably whatever he got on himself during the night).
Shouldn't {sezlu'i} have a place for the stuff (water) that he uses= to wash
himself?

Pierre
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