Received: from mail-vn0-f57.google.com ([209.85.216.57]:34076) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZASfN-0002ll-Dk for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:47:54 -0700 Received: by vnbf129 with SMTP id f129sf16465810vnb.1 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:47:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=Q+e87vg1mudJINGBU7ldrZM5KR/Te+WwnOVk1WToNsQ=; b=M38aVqvAisN3Pcc/lAdeGDqZcf7cVk0RmFlQ+b1gFjTnaicuQFajwtGMR+zBOXaeO1 SdgA72NqJX2xgyVMhsJYHMLdcCRTJDP2EL8wKj1SOYeI1utYdPvJPAgPL26WP9IQHEJV fsp82vI3craxzpELvTlPL/BnxJLBIEsreAflPCn08wxc9z+lWGK5F5lRwmRbfGk56LaI oHQkQszhmoott0xR6P3pFC+yjVg/PpwMeXH1c3VdQ5YQ7Vx0/jhAsYZ2xKMSN1rdJWPU qFPyShuTHBwpZBMTbp4N4MpK1k029i5QaB0qtOD8hEGs90sHPMFUF2RjQpKjch5Xde8N QfuQ== X-Received: by 10.140.99.44 with SMTP id p41mr9048qge.3.1435798063163; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:47:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.23.231 with SMTP id 94ls1060001qgp.24.gmail; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:47:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.201.82 with SMTP id w79mr38180222qha.2.1435798062803; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net. [68.230.241.214]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u75si410842ywe.4.2015.07.01.17.47.42 for ; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.214 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.214; Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150702004742.LZNQ6891.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 20:47:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.242.63]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id nCnh1q00N1Nn1eG01CnhPg; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 20:47:42 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.55948A2E.005A,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=NrUPhbhJ c=1 sm=1 a=sOxKrxY1QYXBcFVBIkZEyQ==:17 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=FvAEXBeo5g4A:10 a=nNqK8vEJwCpE3qyQgsgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=sOxKrxY1QYXBcFVBIkZEyQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <55948A2E.70705@lojban.org> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 20:47:42 -0400 From: "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" Organization: The Logical Language Group, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Extended logical connectives: "PA out of these are true" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.214 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 6/29/2015 12:30 AM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) wrote: > It's been often noted that {broda jonai brode jonai brodi} doesn't quite > work as it is often expected to; connecting more than two items with > exclusive-or actually means "an odd number of these things are true", > which is a rather awkward concept. > > More generally though, what we really want to say here is "one out of > these are true". This was already designed into the language, long ago. If you have a set of members, you enclose them, linked by ce (or possibly ce'o) in lu'i [lu'u] brackets and precede them with a quantifier, or you can choose one of the other forms of set description lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.