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[68.230.241.215]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w79si696017ywd.1.2015.07.02.10.37.35 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.215; Received: from eastrmimpo209 ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150702173735.OZJ4964.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo209> for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:37:35 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.242.63]) by eastrmimpo209 with cox id nVda1q00c1Nn1eG01Vda6T; Thu, 02 Jul 2015 13:37:35 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.559576DF.0045,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=PZchcFdd c=1 sm=1 a=sOxKrxY1QYXBcFVBIkZEyQ==:17 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=FvAEXBeo5g4A:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=NiL0GWOVAAAA:8 a=SWGYNL8Nh9ealXy77mAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=sOxKrxY1QYXBcFVBIkZEyQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <559576DF.3050000@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 13:37:35 -0400 From: Bob LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] jbonunsla - location References: <5096706.OK0AdRCTgh@caracal> <5568903.UmGzmqQki9@caracal> <3746036.DDyrWyEgf1@caracal> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.215 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.0 X-Spam_score_int: -29 X-Spam_bar: --- On 6/29/2015 9:00 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > je'e .i ku'i ca lo nu so'a le me lu la'o gy Monday gy se cmene zo > pavdei li'u bende cu pante keikuko na xusra lo du'u mi na kajde do lo > si'o kulnu zaznalnu'i va'u ii > > --gejyspa > > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Pierre Abbat > wrote: > > On Friday, June 26, 2015 11:55:20 Michael Turniansky wrote: > > We never really established it, but as I said in the original email > > proposing the the thing > > > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/ja_mbMiAt4A/aNdRhAb91aIJ) : > > > I suggest for the sake of cultural neutrality, making the cycle start > > > > > > so that zirdei be Tuesday, since I was born on Tuesday and purple is > > > my favorite color. If I was culturally un-neutral, I'd say xunday [sic] is > > > Sunday, since that's the "start" for both cycles.. > > > > Since these words never entered the dictionary, or had any other > > officialness, I used my suggestion and start with purple on tuesday... > > Setting zirdei to Tuesday because that's your favorite color and > birthdate is > like making a gismu for "smoot". Lots of distances all over the > world are > measured in meters. Many distances (largely in the air) are measured > in feet. > Only one thing (a certain bridge) is measured in smoots. > > Both of us agree that the first day is Sunday (and that, for religious > purposes, the week starts at the previous sunset), so I'm going to > enter them > with xundei being Sunday. I haven't been following this discussion, so why are people discussing concocting a new system for days of the week? The original method just attached a number for the day. I get confused these days from not using Lojban enough, but I think we dealt with the issue of where to start by allowing Sunday to be zero-day (and therefore first) or seven-day (and therefore last). The international standard is that Monday is the first day of the week. http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/days/ Any particular religion should not enter into the consideration at all. See the definition of jeftu which even allows for the possibility of other-than-seven day weeks, though the default should probably be the international standard. Doing anything with colors or other oddball schemes is a likely to succeed as attempts to redo the months of the year, or clock times. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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