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2015-07-02 23:24 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:

> On Thursday, July 02, 2015 15:19:34 Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> > On 7/2/2015 2:53 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote:
> > >      Bob, it's true that ISO-8601 set the standard as Monday as first
> > >
> > > day, but that's not culturally neutral.
> >
> > It is still the *international standard*. Creating anything else might
> > be more "neutral", but it won't be consistent with the international
> > standard.  And we decided long ago that international standards trump
> > cultural neutrality.  Which is also why we ruled out playing games with
> > time-of-day which has at least as many problems as weeks.
> >
> > The metric system isn't culturally neutral either (obviously biased
> > against Americans %^( ).  But we still decided to put all the metric
> > units and prefixes in the gismu list.
>
> All the base units (except the kilogram, because it has a prefix), but many
> derived units are not in the gismu list.
>
> Languages differ as to which day of the week is called by which number. As
> far
> as I know, they don't differ as to which day of the week is named for the
> sun
> or the moon. What the rest are called in languages that call a day for the
> moon does differ, but there is some historical connection between Woden,
> Mercury, and water. And there's no obvious reason to put the sun first in
> the
> circular order (sun, moon, fire, water, wood, metal, earth).
>
> More later, maybe, and an update on jbonunsla. I have to go out and look
> for
> property corners.
>
> Pierre
>

I don't see any problem. If you want to use colored weekdays where
red=Sunday,i.e. presumably the first day then what's wrong? How can it
conflict with using ISO-system?


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te">2015-07-02 23:24 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org</a>&gt;</=
span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Thursday, July 02, 2015 15:19:3=
4 Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br>
&gt; On 7/2/2015 2:53 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bob, it&#39;s true that ISO-8601 set the stan=
dard as Monday as first<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; day, but that&#39;s not culturally neutral.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It is still the *international standard*. Creating anything else might=
<br>
&gt; be more &quot;neutral&quot;, but it won&#39;t be consistent with the i=
nternational<br>
&gt; standard.=C2=A0 And we decided long ago that international standards t=
rump<br>
&gt; cultural neutrality.=C2=A0 Which is also why we ruled out playing game=
s with<br>
&gt; time-of-day which has at least as many problems as weeks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The metric system isn&#39;t culturally neutral either (obviously biase=
d<br>
&gt; against Americans %^( ).=C2=A0 But we still decided to put all the met=
ric<br>
&gt; units and prefixes in the gismu list.<br>
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<br>
derived units are not in the gismu list.<br>
<br>
Languages differ as to which day of the week is called by which number. As =
far<br>
as I know, they don&#39;t differ as to which day of the week is named for t=
he sun<br>
or the moon. What the rest are called in languages that call a day for the<=
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moon does differ, but there is some historical connection between Woden,<br=
>
Mercury, and water. And there&#39;s no obvious reason to put the sun first =
in the<br>
circular order (sun, moon, fire, water, wood, metal, earth).<br>
<br>
More later, maybe, and an update on jbonunsla. I have to go out and look fo=
r<br>
property corners.<br>
<br>
Pierre<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t see any problem. If =
you want to use colored weekdays where red=3DSunday,i.e. presumably the fir=
st day then what&#39;s wrong? How can it conflict with using ISO-system?</d=
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