Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 21:59:59 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [lojban] Re: pledge/collateral
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My first attempts for English tanru for collateral would be loan hostage or 
possibly debt-honoring insurance-object or loan-payment motive.  I agree 
that dejytercanja is iffy, but dejni seems promising: "collateral" as used 
in that bible verse is a loan that insures another loan.  Meaning the 
collateral was in the albeit temporary possession of the lender.  A problem 
with that is that whatever word we came up with might not seem as fitting 
when used to describe most modern collateral (i.e. I don't think using 
one's house as collateral means one must immediately move out of it).  
Still, something like dejyxerdejni is interesting (it's an x1 type-of x4 
for dejni.  I wonder if "da"'s rafsi have a use here.).

How about dejlejmu'i, for dejni pleji mukti?  It's interesting that 
verdejmu'i might be a good word for interest.

On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 6:26:59 PM UTC-5, Pierre Abbat wrote:

> What do we call a pledge of a debt? It's in Deut. 24:13. I wrote "ko xruti 
> lo 
> dejytercanja fo'a ca lo solnuncanci", and I'm not at all sure of 
> "dejytercanja". 
>
> Pierre 
> -- 
> loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji 
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>My first attempts for English tanru for collateral wo=
uld be loan hostage or possibly debt-honoring insurance-object or loan-paym=
ent motive.&nbsp; I agree that dejytercanja is iffy, but dejni seems promis=
ing: "collateral" as used in that bible verse is a loan that insures anothe=
r loan.&nbsp; Meaning the collateral was in the albeit temporary possession=
 of the lender.&nbsp; A problem with that is that whatever word we came up =
with might not seem as fitting when used to describe most modern collateral=
 (i.e. I don't think using one's house as collateral means one must immedia=
tely move out of it).&nbsp; Still, something like dejyxerdejni is interesti=
ng (it's an x1 type-of x4 for dejni.&nbsp; I wonder if "da"'s rafsi have a =
use here.).</div><div><br></div><div>How about dejlejmu'i, for dejni pleji =
mukti?&nbsp; It's interesting that verdejmu'i might be a good word for inte=
rest.</div><div><br>On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 6:26:59 PM UTC-5, Pierre Ab=
bat wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border=
-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">What do we call a pledge of a =
debt? It's in Deut. 24:13. I wrote "ko xruti lo=20
<br>dejytercanja fo'a ca lo solnuncanci", and I'm not at all sure of=20
<br>"dejytercanja".
<br>
<br>Pierre
<br>--=20
<br>loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji
<br>
<br></blockquote></div>

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