Received: from mail-pa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.220.64]:34443) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDBkr-0005mQ-92 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:20:48 -0700 Received: by paczb10 with SMTP id zb10sf54226717pac.1 for ; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:20:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=6vUQ9PQw6vGMog9EVuKneYRXO6zhY2dr+ZYzaZ6fkWc=; b=b6X7nDzEaaLZYQ+aFCoBn1+hxQNknJi5qSIs/JajcFkBXQxskK9PCTIZyT8/i1Y7SE Ix8ikXHneXExbbaii8axTA9zeKtY6ZLpfVElhCiCWOqYJD39zdq216NHZYN03qP0Tuc8 8KVYvk8j870O9y0BmLWiBtPQ1qRpqod/06PLmKafb6t84Udc6nphtzBkQzUFSzdkkau+ ooeDETvHvEpUjJqrq3s6khb12NuanQbXVFo58F8gUprsRjOzujP5J2S7suSgfMsN/6xb WlMz1JCYTcEZnldNJUdYKGUMzcivM2lbCX7cKXloH1aeotbvEFodHDwHaA0eFPZmLmtB OvpA== X-Received: by 10.50.253.5 with SMTP id zw5mr850268igc.9.1436448039031; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:20:39 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.111.168 with SMTP id ij8ls2130977igb.12.canary; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:20:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.233.66 with SMTP id tu2mr19227683pac.34.1436448038708; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com. [64.12.143.76]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xz5si607376pac.1.2015.07.09.06.20.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of almikes@aol.com designates 64.12.143.76 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.12.143.76; Received: from mtaout-mcd01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mcd01.mx.aol.com [172.26.223.205]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 038E270607319 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from W5.fritz.box (p549F9B4E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.159.155.78]) by mtaout-mcd01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 436A73800009A for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:20:33 +0200 From: "'Wuzzy' via lojban" To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] ASCII letters and keyboard names Message-ID: <20150709152033.506251ed@W5.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: References: <2f57882b-610d-4c53-a54d-58ba0d653f38@googlegroups.com> <5366994.3OVpFVRdxZ@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1adfcd559e75252858 X-AOL-IP: 84.159.155.78 X-Original-Sender: almikes@aol.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of almikes@aol.com designates 64.12.143.76 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=almikes@aol.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=aol.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Original-From: Wuzzy X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.1 X-Spam_score_int: -30 X-Spam_bar: --- > > "," is ce'o bu. What happened to slaka bu? > > >=20 > I remember changing to {ce'o bu} so that this part of ASCII table got > at least some structure. Otherwise ()*+,-./ loses its reference to > mathematics. Of course, this poses a question should full stop be > {denpa bu}. Maybe {mu'o bu}. Definitely we can use letteralize {.i} > (sentence separator). > Also full stop/comma are used as decimal separator and for groups of > digits like in "1,002.56" although this is not culturally neutral and > can cause confusion. Is there an ISO-standard for that? other than > that {ki'o bu} and {pi bu} could be used making > () > +-*/ > ., > sets somewhat organized. Please don't hijack standard bu-letterals. :-( I've already had to fix the letterals for ', w, q and h earlier because they had non-standard translations. =E2=80=9Cslaka bu=E2=80=9D is very standard; we should not invent new bu-le= tterals if out of thin air if there already is a standard one, it just increases confusion otherwise. Having a 100% parallel set is of low priority. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.