Received: from mail-wi0-f183.google.com ([209.85.212.183]:34674) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZFUFX-00030H-M6 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:30:00 -0700 Received: by widic2 with SMTP id ic2sf5282213wid.1 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:29:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=HVbACSucAsRILAArOKWX1yX4ay7wcBouTYIynnITIdo=; b=u0hQtFyMHAxRqmzji7CSl06ybYr5FTUYBajtNo0gW3tPPhm918QUBxCkbS7tYf0c2B 1Ts+AyRYavVWUFULUmT9UBoz3rtWDjEUGclthJ5wQGErvEumpae0KhXJRnKLGSDOAhcJ J0x8M67bjcrGm0wRj51owOwVDM47/+X4e8n9oHMu4NmBhNzwBh97LoLb6TfNYkZkP6In CC5YDC1XdH7sSjBI5SBYshyf1ZHaCX3rLCykxcpWshyOraqiXq6GNuTSeSWlcHa9bDcr h4/gmBSsNjFt19H/OmE+Tr3+887jx2pZeTO3EOv2aCgsF8YH82R9dtYhR8GIl9MPVcVF jVoA== X-Received: by 10.152.6.196 with SMTP id d4mr145455laa.8.1436995788815; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:29:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.184.168 with SMTP id ev8ls285009lac.8.gmail; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:29:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.98.42 with SMTP id ef10mr3101973lbb.18.1436995787987; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com (mail-wg0-x235.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hm7si69780wib.0.2015.07.15.14.29.47 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::235; Received: by wgjx7 with SMTP id x7so43396601wgj.2 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:29:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.7.129 with SMTP id j1mr310312wia.39.1436995787869; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.26.88 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:29:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:29:47 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: {tu'e...tu'u} in NU From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044287bc7ad12c051af0a780 X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --f46d044287bc7ad12c051af0a780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:29 AM, guskant wrote: > > 3. sentences connected with forethought connective: > > {nu ju'e gi broda gi brode gi brodi gi brodo gi brodu} > (CU [nu {CU <(=C2=B9ju'e gi=C2=B9) broda (=C2=B9[gi brode] [gi brodi] [gi= brodo] [gi > brodu]=C2=B9) GIhI> VAU} KEI] VAU) > > (Forethought connectives of la zantufa-0.2 can connect more than three > "statements (not only sentences)", and {gi'i} is used as the elidible > terminator GIhI, not as GIhA. See > http://mw.lojban.org/papri/zantufa_jonma%27o#lo_li.27erla.27i_jonma.27o > for more info.) > I like this use of "gi" because connected lists are by far more common than embedded binary connectives. The meanings of "ge ... gi ... gi ..." and "ga ... gi ... gi ..." are fairly obvious, but what are the proposed generalizations for "go" and "gu"? Is "go" all true or all false? What are "gu", "se gu", "te gu", etc? mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --f46d044287bc7ad12c051af0a780 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:29 AM, guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

= 3. sentences connected with forethought connective:

{nu ju'e gi broda gi brode gi brodi gi brodo gi brodu}
(CU [nu {CU <(=C2=B9ju'e gi= =C2=B9) broda (=C2=B9[gi brode] [gi brodi] [gi brodo] [gi brodu]=C2=B9) GIh= I> VAU} KEI] VAU)=C2=A0

(Forethought connective= s of la zantufa-0.2 can connect more than three "statements (not only = sentences)", and {gi'i} is used as the elidible terminator GIhI, n= ot as GIhA. See=C2=A0
for m= ore info.)

I like this use of &= quot;gi" because connected lists are by far more common than embedded = binary connectives. The meanings of "ge ... gi ... gi ..." and &q= uot;ga ... gi ... gi ..." are fairly obvious, but what are the propose= d generalizations for "go" and "gu"? Is "go" = all true or all false? What are "gu", "se gu", "te= gu", etc?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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