Received: from mail-ig0-f184.google.com ([209.85.213.184]:32986) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZFV5w-0003qu-TD for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:24:25 -0700 Received: by igts8 with SMTP id s8sf225776igt.0 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:23:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=/LkTGZsbzzK2PhxqgnV8JVQcEcuZw5kz4GhGoQftI5I=; b=Fl62NJphCb26+mjQV+SZuWgnNYQxZoGjsy2ep798y9t+FqDK7LYq7er3mGBy03tV15 hMtVv2yLBEftdU427W+W3VhqvEB3cliAqIc/AmRFkWNb8sZtSiUnMWGwbAGsG1hH3Sej Z0oED3L4kwZ5FKe6g8Qat+WV0EgJKyrEC15GijDBKSOOEJ4J60NRY2zmWvKY83Dx5rMf mYc16W2rH/pNRlMoafWoxC0oSd4SSPHsgWJzf1F1LN01Ey18ZthAolOt6Kh0K2+SSZ4P Sv5PbpZtRejeNFsc4RXmGt+GgsQFQHuXkMtvjqRMUqhtYpnQqFIqSP9Juy9TmEp8U5cU naBw== X-Received: by 10.50.126.72 with SMTP id mw8mr13035igb.8.1436999039105; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:23:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.93.6 with SMTP id cq6ls17680igb.26.gmail; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.107.165.197 with SMTP id o188mr1498240ioe.34.1436999038403; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jerrington.me (jerrington.me. [192.99.166.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b76si622212ywe.1.2015.07.15.15.23.58 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of tsani@mail.jerrington.me designates 192.99.166.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.99.166.45; Received: from [192.168.1.51] (web106239.Wireless.McGill.CA [142.157.106.239]) by jerrington.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BBC9514541C for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:23:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55A6DD7D.9010003@mail.jerrington.me> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:23:57 -0400 From: Jacob Thomas Errington User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: {tu'e...tu'u} in NU References: <196303dc-9717-45a5-a521-788aa2a153f8@googlegroups.com> <55A6A80B.1020801@mail.jerrington.me> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Original-Sender: tsani@mail.jerrington.me X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of tsani@mail.jerrington.me designates 192.99.166.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=tsani@mail.jerrington.me Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 07/15/2015 06:21 PM, Alex Burka wrote: > > True. Most magic words are local, though. Only ZOI and LOhU (and LU) > can have a large extent. And magic is comparatively rare, whereas > NU/NOI is extremely common and I fear a large amount of text would be > broken by changing the semantics of .i after abstractions. > Changing the semantics of {.i} after abstractions would be disastrous, which is why you'd need to explicitly use {tu'e}. .i mi djica lo nu tu'e do klama lo mi zdani .ibabo mi'o samkei kansi'u tu'u Like this, {tu'e} is essentially acting as LU, but the result of which is not a sumti, but a bridi. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.