Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 01:51:10 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [lojban] Re: An attempt to explain why "ganai broda gi ko brode"
 makes sense
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Well, I think, that the illocutionary mode of a command, which is 
represented by {ko}, {ko'oi}, {e'o}, {e'u}, and perhaps some others I might 
be missing, is not a statement saying "this proposition is true"; rather 
it's a command or request to "make this proposition true".

Thus {ganai broda gi ko brode} works, because if broda is false, then the 
listener does not have to do anything to make the proposition true; it's 
already true. While if broda is true, then the listener will have to do 
brode to follow the command/request. (of course, they may choose to not 
obey the command/request for whatever reason, but the meaning of the 
command/request is still clear)

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Well, I think, that the illocutionary mode of a command, w=
hich is represented by {ko}, {ko&#39;oi}, {e&#39;o}, {e&#39;u}, and perhaps=
 some others I might be missing, is not a statement saying &quot;this propo=
sition is true&quot;; rather it&#39;s a command or request to &quot;make th=
is proposition true&quot;.<div><br></div><div>Thus {ganai broda gi ko brode=
} works, because if broda is false, then the listener does not have to do a=
nything to make the proposition true; it&#39;s already true. While if broda=
 is true, then the listener will have to do brode to follow the command/req=
uest. (of course, they may choose to not obey the command/request for whate=
ver reason, but the meaning of the command/request is still clear)</div></d=
iv>

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