Received: from mail-wi0-f190.google.com ([209.85.212.190]:33389) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZFqop-0006tA-A8 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:35:58 -0700 Received: by wilh8 with SMTP id h8sf12490467wil.0 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:35:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=xyixhrOr3JQYpKRYXz1MciKPbPCIreEdsp/RyBqlM6g=; b=B7Bk+bvDaKlJs2PNPVanzhbnQWOjzEI54VgpCrtUSGLUchmW4lUNUgiHQgVQk90Mc5 7/ZOPdIYC9UXCLzNBTa51i2FMQR36pelVemnb7/SwC8yO/HFRgbnixPKeeqWOJzLyV6l 46fz+LlA+UvLMcPNVSNQwmsYqKUQiisCL3jrQZCta0t/6fa0z6FMOIYSgVJrSg9yaUfu FCDAK3dfXljHvZ5hzflrGE2vIrmiUPvLTeGmqzfTSpkQ3bCfwKGh16NBOvEM7cT6hTaR lio17lNp1Qi/1pGOXVlPG04tIZBhyccD3ob4MrMYkH9XEZJTefICwNp8vfu46a5/IQwI HPNA== X-Received: by 10.152.245.44 with SMTP id xl12mr249354lac.16.1437082544773; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:35:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.87.164 with SMTP id az4ls400594lab.16.gmail; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:35:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.28.111 with SMTP id a15mr5875570lbh.21.1437082543694; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t6si177604wiz.0.2015.07.16.14.35.43 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::233 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::233; Received: by mail-wi0-x233.google.com with SMTP id mv11so27422459wic.1 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:35:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.11.7 with SMTP id m7mr23360316wjb.56.1437082543604; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.26.88 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:35:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 18:35:43 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: {tu'e...tu'u} in NU From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d259a86492f051b04daeb X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7b5d259a86492f051b04daeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:23 AM, guskant wrote: > > For the same reason, I prefer the interpretation of "all true or all > false" for {go} and "one and only one of them is true" for {gonai} to the > interpretation of grouping of binary connectives. > One problem with that interpretation for "gonai" is that it doesn't go well with "go ... ginai ... gi ..." and such. The natural Lojbanic interpretation is for "nai" to negate the following connectand. So "gonai A gi B gi C" would be true when A differs in truth value from B and from C. "One and only one of them" is more useful, but hard to reconcile with the general pattern. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7b5d259a86492f051b04daeb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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