Received: from mail-ob0-f192.google.com ([209.85.214.192]:34044) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZFtot-0001I8-4A for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:48:19 -0700 Received: by obbgp5 with SMTP id gp5sf34391521obb.1 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:48:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=snRZzHZjOuaeK5OWJIViTDH7wBAi/0qgC+ZmEHpVoWY=; b=bYF4VEZCfAPN3M+JJnHhQkDZ1qUSPkTMaWwcEeed2ZCOVB5CqXZ5G4UmenIs272wLY 5Pz5mNgy8DxUzifQWOAGM7+JD7faSAabLHv0nZ6hr8h3esdqC07IDL+fbuWiEeW5P+Ro 5FE77JwPviTLzagL3ygxFakS8B1M/9MNqYYTuC3eMt6tSq4WgzpeBppRtvSoWALOZuK4 ZUzMMBX9S5uYBwYow4sIkvBCR+iuIwwAqDOE1Vgc2ecV359eLcHsmfPN/D2XhVOeDzoU esAQbk7cqY4PC4ectxLBfiZ6M+KlFaAXIhur6H+/eg6n8h5jnKuP6OO0UPq1/C2aLahc 1ZGQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=snRZzHZjOuaeK5OWJIViTDH7wBAi/0qgC+ZmEHpVoWY=; b=shhbBspjJG+Wl9hY94g+g3pGVtH5XHZ+SyKMkd3RKKkPiBQaIeTJBvEIDnAh9yLyZK Y94Laf3iUSac8AcXCJurkKa2aep4Yc00wiocp+kbbYTDpuLGZtZYNph312YxV1CVv8ur dgpiYixBnruNl9Le23KR5/wN53cZHCUyVz294hRj/vJEXC5fJwsFdZCbFsikcslbfPV8 V5yTSMBUNXvqY636zkr2lRO9iefrXMaDSXJKGqIsIaaAey7cxaje6cAe7RQQwh7piw9X XlnX+RCdbx5vUQFudTxUJe6zK6oqeRORl47U8GlSzP6V6dqM4GNWX3nY9CqggxKeO74g YH5w== X-Received: by 10.50.136.166 with SMTP id qb6mr190163igb.2.1437094081198; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:48:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.43.132 with SMTP id w4ls394291igl.39.canary; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:48:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.1.66 with SMTP id 2mr211104igk.1.1437094081008; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:47:59 -0700 (PDT) From: guskant To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <5ad337e8-13ec-4d61-a5e7-138a1ebd1365@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <038823f7-3e2e-47ea-990a-a9b38861edac@googlegroups.com> References: <038823f7-3e2e-47ea-990a-a9b38861edac@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: {tu'e...tu'u} in NU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1701_1562967254.1437094079864" X-Original-Sender: gusni.kantu@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.1 X-Spam_score_int: -30 X-Spam_bar: --- ------=_Part_1701_1562967254.1437094079864 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1702_1850387652.1437094079864" ------=_Part_1702_1850387652.1437094079864 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le jeudi 16 juillet 2015 05:52:56 UTC, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) a =C3=A9crit= : > > On n-ary gi / forethought connectives: What about sumtcita? {pu je ca}=20 > works, but {ge pu gi ca} doesn't.{ge puku gi ca(ku)} works though, in=20 > camxes-exp and zantufa. > =20 La zantufa does not allow full connective system to sumtcita, FA,=20 NOI/GOI-clauses=20 (not to a pseudo-termset like {ke baiku naku ke'e}, either : this ke-clause= =20 is unnecessary for la zantufa connective system, but implemented only for= =20 parsing official texts including {nu'i} and the similar.)=20 The reason varies. As for sumtcita, it is because the forethought=20 connectives include sumtcita in their structure itself, for example {ba gi= =20 ... gi ...}. {ge puku gi ca(ku)} is parsed by la zantufa because it is=20 connection of terms. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1702_1850387652.1437094079864 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Le jeudi 16 juillet 2015 05:52:56 UTC, Spheniscine= (la zipcpi) a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
On n-ary gi / forethought connectives: What about sumtci= ta? {pu je ca} works, but {ge pu gi ca} doesn't.{ge puku gi ca(ku)} wor= ks though, in camxes-exp and zantufa.

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La zantufa does not allow full connective = system to sumtcita, FA, NOI/GOI-clauses=C2=A0
(not to a pseudo-te= rmset like {ke baiku naku ke'e}, either : this ke-clause is unnecessary= for la zantufa connective system, but implemented only for parsing officia= l texts including {nu'i} and the similar.)=C2=A0

The reason varies. As for sumtcita, it is because the forethought connec= tives include sumtcita in their structure itself, for example {ba gi ... gi= ...}. {ge puku gi ca(ku)} is parsed by la zantufa because it is connection= of terms.

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