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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c3si345385wiz.2.2015.07.20.01.42.39 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Jul 2015 01:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b; Received: by mail-wi0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id xm9so85342081wib.0 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 01:42:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.109.229 with SMTP id hv5mr57634186wjb.119.1437381759859; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 01:42:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 01:42:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:42:00 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Are texts in Lojban lengthy? To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b60441a3403a8051b4a85d5 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7b60441a3403a8051b4a85d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2015-07-20 11:22 GMT+03:00 Jonathan Jones : > You missed "per[=C4=B1=3D&]son=C4=B1" > It can be /=CB=88p=C9=9C=CB=90s=C9=99n/ without any consonant clusters in b= etween. > , and while I'm no polyglot, I not aware of any language that requires '= =C4=B1' > after n > After "n" you have "t" in "person to" > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Gleki Arxokuna < > gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Some explanations >> http://mw.lojban.org/papri/Are_texts_in_Lojban_lengthy%3F >> >> Phoneme inventory, literal translation, number of consonant boundaries. >> Anything else you have in mind? >> la su'o da should also compare texts in Spanish with Lojban texts having >> the phoneme inventory and the number of consonant clusters in mind. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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2015-07-20 11:22 GMT+03:00 Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>:
You missed "per[=C4=B1=3D&= amp;]son=C4=B1"

It can be /=CB= =88p=C9=9C=CB=90s=C9=99n/ without any consonant clusters in between.
<= div>
=C2=A0
, and whil= e I'm no polyglot, I not aware of any language that requires '=C4= =B1' after n

After "n&qu= ot; =C2=A0you have "t" in "person to"

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Gleki Ar= xokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Some explan= ations http://mw.lojban.org/papri/Are_texts_in_Lojban_lengthy%= 3F

Phoneme inventory, literal translation, number of conso= nant boundaries. Anything else you have in mind?
la su'o da s= hould also compare texts in Spanish with Lojban texts having the phoneme in= ventory and the number of consonant clusters in mind.

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mu'o mi'e .aiony= s.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu = do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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