Received: from mail-wi0-f184.google.com ([209.85.212.184]:34176) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZH7cK-0004aM-OI for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:44:16 -0700 Received: by wicmv11 with SMTP id mv11sf1619081wic.1 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:44:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=uhSNuvcOpLbCnzb6zRhl69G/NdtVbmm3iwnnqbQFfis=; b=JsB+y42mW8ZeS6epMLxIOWHcSZXt4NnVw93RWumg9kNfEX8J0zJ03JQOAcAzrwM/QK 48bZO7dLUjPJxH3CCmkxouNj3OVdYHjVJ8g/0IgNP6R9TP8sJp+Ykttn0VDh3SHRXJev dV8mbxB2o2Mf8OUi/7+srY83CKU8Lu66swmHjI4leldzGNYtN4tIXoXNTh5J70PlSdNE nffl5x197U5dY/uKFdpKMSdhIywT/wcfa8EjX6m9WguVPWi4b+sel4KMeLpEbPecgHIF 9gzMN4NdIpOKqGqxuNRfc5d0UtIAHxI/g3lLdW4CPKIvnr725Men8ZHIs3zashOVPP8w T6QQ== X-Received: by 10.180.35.195 with SMTP id k3mr34123wij.4.1437385446147; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:44:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.99.3 with SMTP id em3ls766391wib.48.gmail; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:44:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.106.10 with SMTP id gq10mr5863359wib.0.1437385445787; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22f.google.com (mail-wi0-x22f.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bk2si361929wib.1.2015.07.20.02.44.05 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of durka42@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f; Received: by mail-wi0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id xm9so20949827wib.1 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:44:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.93.226 with SMTP id cx2mr53780749wjb.28.1437385445662; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Alexs-MacBook-Air-2.local ([192.124.28.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j7sm31139330wjz.11.2015.07.20.02.44.03 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Jul 2015 02:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:44:03 +0200 From: Alex Burka To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] datro X-Mailer: Airmail Beta (309) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="55acc2e3_4f3f9861_64d6" X-Original-Sender: durka42@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of durka42@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=durka42@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --55acc2e3_4f3f9861_64d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The experimental gismu {datru} was invented to fix some of the shortcomings= of {detri}, and unfortunately it was used for a while before anyone notice= d that it conflicts with the official {tatru}. Disrupting usage is bad, but= leaving a flagrant violation of our own rules in the lexicon is worse, so = I've just added {datro} to la jbovlaste as a replacement. I left a note in the notes of both words. Since there is=C2=A0usage=C2=A0of= {datru}, we shouldn't necessarily downvote it so hard that it disappears f= rom dictionaries... but on the other hand, dictionaries with working full-t= ext search will come up with {datro} anyway. - mu'o mi'e durkavore --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --55acc2e3_4f3f9861_64d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline = The experimental gismu {datru} was inve= nted to fix some of the shortcomings of {detri}, and unfortunately it was u= sed for a while before anyone noticed that it conflicts with the official {= tatru}. Disrupting usage is bad, but leaving a flagrant violation of our ow= n rules in the lexicon is worse, so I've just added {datro} to la jbovlaste= as a replacement.

I left a note in the notes of both wo= rds. Since there is usage of {datru}, we shouldn't = necessarily downvote it so hard that it disappears from dictionaries... but= on the other hand, dictionaries with working full-text search will come up= with {datro} anyway.

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