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[2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rs3si761168igb.2.2015.07.20.12.48.47 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of robert.s.slaughter@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22f; Received: by mail-ig0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 7so22168958igr.0 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:48:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.155.12 with SMTP id d12mr33877297ioe.131.1437421726744; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.8.71 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:48:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55ACDD18.10906@gmx.de> References: <20150720074736.GE27469@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <55ACDD18.10906@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:48:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] CLL v1.1: Visual commentary, please. From: Robert Slaughter To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141b9d66a483a051b53d3f6 X-Original-Sender: robert.s.slaughter@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of robert.s.slaughter@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=robert.s.slaughter@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1141b9d66a483a051b53d3f6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Agreed that the examples probably need a half-space or proper typesetting equivalent before and after them. The headers and indentation seem good to me, ---- Bob Slaughter http://www.facebook.com/robert.s.slaughter "The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." -- Plato "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." -- Albert Einstein "Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good." -- Pope Leo XIII, encyclical 'On Christians as Citizens' On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:35 AM, selpa'i wrote: > la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e > >> >> http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_prince_spacing_test_2015-07-20.pdf >> is my attempt to merge everybody's thoughts about spacing. Compare >> >> http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_build-2015-06-20/cll_prince.pdf >> >> It has *MUCH* less vertical whitespace, in basically every >> department. It also has smaller headers. And less indentation. >> >> Sentences after examples and the like that appear to be >> continuations (i.e. start with lower case) are not indented. >> >> I think that's most of it. >> >> Thoughts? >> > > There is too little space around the examples and cmavo tables now, so > they almost disappear into the surrounding paragraphs. I don't know if it's > due to a missing line break or something else. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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Agreed that the examples probably need a half-space or pro= per typesetting equivalent before and after them.

The he= aders and indentation seem good to me,


-= ---
Bob Slaughter
"The price good men pay for indifference to pu= blic affairs is to be ruled by evil men." -- Plato
"All= that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.&quo= t; -- Edmund Burke
"The world is a dangerous place, not beca= use of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.&= quot; -- Albert Einstein
"Nothing emboldens the wicked so gr= eatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good." -- Pope Leo XII= I, encyclical 'On Christians as Citizens'

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 7:35 AM, selpa'i= <= seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
la .= camgusmis. cu cusku di'e
http://vrici.lo= jban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_prince_spacing_test_2015-07-20.pdf<= span class=3D"">
is my attempt to merge everybody's thoughts about spacing.=C2=A0 Compar= e
http://vric= i.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_build-2015-06-20/cll_prince.pdf=

It has *MUCH* less vertical whitespace, in basically every
department.=C2=A0 It also has smaller headers.=C2=A0 And less indentation.<= br>
Sentences after examples and the like that appear to be
continuations (i.e. start with lower case) are not indented.

I think that's most of it.

Thoughts?

There is too little space around the examples and cmavo tables now, so they= almost disappear into the surrounding paragraphs. I don't know if it&#= 39;s due to a missing line break or something else.

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