Received: from mail-lb0-f185.google.com ([209.85.217.185]:32773) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHSEo-00044w-Gm for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:45:26 -0700 Received: by lbbvz8 with SMTP id vz8sf65972580lbb.0 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:45:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=OTJ4l64xNLyAK3SvoptZNV11l0C5UWrNps5+s9pZ30s=; b=s4FcwllpQiW0mKAZgbkYygUde1hiI3x8qzG79QUn64sRpU2XjPvK2SN+iPrjLOnQOc V1gN29y/s+qWUIw1oUrAFNXZ47d/JWgIAFE9XGZwCRiT/8OnXvUh6QZy1QwgBinrBn6V kCLLxYcrAxByvC6qvV3K9FsSSJIo8qFKUbL0eO6y6qZd+AsIlMQJgOzuHaG0ZuhWRHct 5L06kjyISck2Ivq6c56T1gTKsyThe7fnrCuqoaJuEAFEM9fWM4frEmdXRcJB/xyVrylV TKFdd3j92gdWQN/uKlJ6DJM7FhwdyIsDmKsRB5OR4DWUOmd5FG/OSpDMBkp8lNVPAaUl VGCQ== X-Received: by 10.180.149.174 with SMTP id ub14mr62955wib.2.1437464711464; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:45:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.98.163 with SMTP id ej3ls967691wib.21.canary; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:45:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.182.110 with SMTP id ed14mr1316143wic.5.1437464710899; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x229.google.com (mail-wg0-x229.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c00::229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gt9si496657wib.2.2015.07.21.00.45.10 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::229 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::229; Received: by mail-wg0-x229.google.com with SMTP id n9so148787821wgm.0 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:45:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.98.134 with SMTP id ei6mr27794285wib.49.1437464710808; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:45:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.162.130 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:44:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1c2a3b64-07b1-4023-a740-362deb17da34@googlegroups.com> <55AD070D.5020903@gmx.de> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:44:31 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] xoi and new soi as bridi relative clause To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442829a7709ce051b5dd54f X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --f46d0442829a7709ce051b5dd54f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-07-21 9:44 GMT+03:00 guskant : > Considering the simplicity of grammar and the advantage of new SOI > compared with SEI, it would be better to modify SEI so that it encloses a > sentence, and merge {soi} to selma'o SEI, though this change will require > more {se'u}. > This would be absolutely devastating. {sei} is very similar to LE and that's the simplicity of the grammar. I don't see any need in changing it, what is more the current grammar of SEI is more advantageous to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --f46d0442829a7709ce051b5dd54f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= 2015-07-21 9:44 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>:
Considering the simplicity of gra= mmar and the advantage of new SOI compared with SEI, it would be better to = modify SEI so that it encloses a sentence, and merge {soi} to selma'o S= EI, though this change will require more {se'u}.=C2=A0
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This would be absolutely devastating. {sei} is very = similar to LE and that's the simplicity of the grammar.
I don't see any need in changing it, what is more the = current grammar of SEI is more advantageous to me.

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