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Subject: Re: [lojban] Internal grammar of UI, NAI and CAI
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> You may have problems in redistributing existing cmavo between these new 4
> selmaho, though.
> E.g. {se'i}, {ri'e}, {zo'o} and {xo'o} by their semantics clearly belong
> to UI5=ROhA="interjection suffix"="categorizer".
>

"ri'e", yes. Not so sure about "zo'o" though. It's usually used as
standalone, and your grammar doesn't allow ROhA to stand by itself. And
doesn't "se'i" belong with "dai"?

I would accept having {fu'i} there too.
>

I don't really know what it is used for.


> But I'm not sure how {le'o}, {vu'e}, {ju'o} work as such suffixes. People
> almost never use {ju'o} as a modifier but on its own. So they'd rather
> belong to UI="interjection root" part.
>

"le'o" and "vu'e" seem to be what we might call "stances", they might go
with "ga'i". "ju'o" should go with "li'a", "la'a", they require a
proposition to relate to.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.=
name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span class=3D""><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><br></div></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">You may have pro=
blems in redistributing existing cmavo between these new 4 selmaho, though.=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">E.g. {se&#39;i}, {ri&#39;e}, {zo&#39=
;o} and {xo&#39;o} by their semantics clearly belong to UI5=3DROhA=3D&quot;=
interjection suffix&quot;=3D&quot;categorizer&quot;.</div></div></blockquot=
e><div><br></div><div>&quot;ri&#39;e&quot;, yes. Not so sure about &quot;zo=
&#39;o&quot; though. It&#39;s usually used as standalone, and your grammar =
doesn&#39;t allow ROhA to stand by itself. And doesn&#39;t &quot;se&#39;i&q=
uot; belong with &quot;dai&quot;?</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">I would accept having=
 {fu&#39;i} there too.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don=
9;t really know what it is used for.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">But I&#39;m not =
sure how {le&#39;o}, {vu&#39;e}, {ju&#39;o} work as such suffixes. People a=
lmost never use {ju&#39;o} as a modifier but on its own. So they&#39;d rath=
er belong to UI=3D&quot;interjection root&quot; part.</div></div></blockquo=
te><div><br></div><div>&quot;le&#39;o&quot; and &quot;vu&#39;e&quot; seem t=
o be what we might call &quot;stances&quot;, they might go with &quot;ga=
9;i&quot;. &quot;ju&#39;o&quot; should go with &quot;li&#39;a&quot;, &quot;=
la&#39;a&quot;, they require a proposition to relate to.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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