Received: from mail-qk0-f188.google.com ([209.85.220.188]:34286) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZIkDa-00056v-Bl for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:09:26 -0700 Received: by qkdu126 with SMTP id u126sf13119839qkd.1 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:09:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=6+dryygBmq83hH0s0M8ZrB5L/HUPq48bRyeVWUNrBZ0=; b=tJhihMJficrkCyONvNnH9kYIecxl8rmT/6cipX78DyEVUdxUHeSXZpxLsA53Y7pZaT GDr/6bLWiQlOZ8cJdopcq2JDS8J6wkHKJqmAimzxdlEdkRiG/A2kipDNcbIAicodTwxI IDzstGiukWs6cEhCYgLIZEqpZoF0rHOfrv5P5trRbNIcxUfKVEp9aWFw5VOkBwuh4kfb b1xkdMBSZNkhGZRpV3AGU7JnqRysBfCIfrOaE9vpPDOEeEATp8ia0nG2Hq0r7bFE6/XT oo2AXx+eyiaedIi8m1WWYfZ6uswvDIBz2WSsVp/9IedlPwVRqHxE4HVtjWCoYJ2GOomx MxLA== X-Received: by 10.140.98.117 with SMTP id n108mr326945qge.23.1437772156319; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:09:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.41.38 with SMTP id y35ls1803911qgy.82.gmail; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:09:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.129.79.1 with SMTP id d1mr15557711ywb.45.1437772155823; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ig0-x231.google.com (mail-ig0-x231.google.com. [2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b7si7724igv.3.2015.07.24.14.09.15 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of summerfallsaway@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231; Received: by mail-ig0-x231.google.com with SMTP id pg9so45532005igb.0 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:09:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.107.6.231 with SMTP id f100mr24888825ioi.61.1437772155685; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:09:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Andrew Toskin Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:09:05 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Interactive learning on Duolingo To: Gleki Arxokuna , lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f9be49b9345051ba56a3d X-Original-Sender: summerfallsaway@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of summerfallsaway@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=summerfallsaway@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --001a113f9be49b9345051ba56a3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I don't know, I think we could make it work if enough people express interest. I've seen lessons in a few different languages, and Duolingo's lessons seem pretty formulaic. I imagine they have some sort of template for planning lesson content and coding the backend stuff. I'm sure this will still require some nontrivial effort, but I think we can do it. The first step is probably to find some people whose Lojban is strong enough that they could help contribute to the lessons. ~Andrew On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:06 AM Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > I can reply to you in private and explain why Lojban isn't on Duolingo. > 1. To enable it there they need to pay their employees to implement a lot > of backend things. > 2. To solve surface problems they need exercises like sentences with their > translations sorted by lessons. > > These are the answers from a member of Duolingo team. > > As for 1. you may contact them and ask them how much money is needed to > solve backend problems. How much you could spend? > > As for 2. if you finished any course in Duolingo I would ask you (if you > posted to help us all) to transfer all the lessons to a spreadsheet file. I > started making a course for Lojban. Here is the template: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15Qc6Em0vRibIImfbAkAodz55MssWnFiKrNpurYfGQwQ/edit?usp=sharing > > It doesnt guarantee the course will appear there but if we complete it > then we'll have good chances for it. In any case we'll be able to implement > it using another software. > > So if you can help then there is no need to speak Lojban for you. Just > transfer any language course into this template. > > Waiting for more questions from you. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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I don't know, I think we could make it work = if enough people express interest. I've seen lessons in a few different= languages, and Duolingo's lessons seem pretty formulaic. I imagine the= y have some sort of template for planning lesson content and coding the bac= kend stuff.

I'm sure this will still require some nontriv= ial effort, but I think we can do it. The first step is probably to find so= me people whose Lojban is strong enough that they could help contribute to = the lessons.

~Andrew


On Fri, Jul= 24, 2015 at 11:06 AM Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
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I can reply to you in= private and explain why Lojban isn't on Duolingo.
1. To enable it = there they need to pay their employees to implement a lot of backend things= .
2. To solve surface problems they need exercises like sentences= with their translations sorted by lessons.

These = are the answers from a member of Duolingo team.

As= for 1. you may contact them and ask them how much money is needed to solve= backend problems. How much you could spend?

As fo= r 2. if you finished any course in Duolingo I would ask you (if you posted = to help us all) to transfer all the lessons to a spreadsheet file. I starte= d making a course for Lojban. Here is the template:

https://docs.go= ogle.com/spreadsheets/d/15Qc6Em0vRibIImfbAkAodz55MssWnFiKrNpurYfGQwQ/edit?u= sp=3Dsharing

It doesnt guarantee the cours= e will appear there but if we complete it then we'll have good chances = for it. In any case we'll be able to implement it using another softwar= e.

So if you can help then there is no need to spe= ak Lojban for you. Just transfer any language course into this template.

Waiting for more questions from you.

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