Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 15:47:19 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [lojban] Re: Sensations / qualia (colors etc.)
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There is one possible wrinkle of defining colors as qualia. I don't think 
cameras can experience qualia; however, they are made by humans to detect 
the same/similar colors as humans do.

By the way I have decided that {lo ganseti} / {lo ga'ei broda} isn't a new 
type after all, but a specialized form of {li'i}. I have defined {li'imdu} 
so that {li'i} is its NU-form (c.f. {nundumu}, {du'umdu}, {su'umdu}). Thus 
my proposal is that {li'i} denotes subjective conscious experiences. Since 
{li'imdu} can convert both a {nu} and a {ka}, {li'i} may or may not have a 
{ce'u}.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">There is one possible wrinkle of defining colors as qualia=
. I don&#39;t think cameras can experience qualia; however, they are made b=
y humans to detect the same/similar colors as humans do.<div><br></div><div=
>By the way I have decided that {lo ganseti} / {lo ga&#39;ei broda} isn&#39=
;t a new type after all, but a specialized form of {li&#39;i}. I have defin=
ed {li&#39;imdu} so that {li&#39;i} is its NU-form (c.f. {nundumu}, {du&#39=
;umdu}, {su&#39;umdu}). Thus my proposal is that {li&#39;i} denotes subject=
ive conscious experiences. Since {li&#39;imdu} can convert both a {nu} and =
a {ka}, {li&#39;i} may or may not have a {ce&#39;u}.</div></div>

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