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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: xoi and new soi as bridi relative clause
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I much prefer a UI marker for [non-]restrictiveness. That unifies a lot of =
stuff, providing a way to think about {ne} in terms of {pe}, {noi} in terms=
 of {poi}, etc and reduces cmavo proliferation (refer to the Cmavo Non-Prol=
iferation Act of 2014, zo'o). And {ta'o} seems to fit.

mu'o mi'e la durkavore

On August 2, 2015 at 3:34:49 AM, Spheniscine (la zipcpi) (spheniscine@gmail=
.com) wrote:

About Pxoi vs Nxoi:

We *could* make say {ni'oi} Nxoi, while xoi =3D Pxoi (either that or assign=
 {pi'oi}, but I'm reluctant to use that cmavo space if we aren't gonna kill=
 {xoi}, which might be impossible to do at this point).

On the other hand though, there might be a need for a UI to mark "non-restr=
ictive" information, since {xoi} is proposed to be an expansion for {fi'o},=
 BAI, and sumtcita anyway. Thus this UI can then be useful to mark any sumt=
cita place (or even, say, seltau) as incidental information.

I *think* {ta'o} works for that purpose, but others might disagree. There's=
 also {ra'unai}, but I'm not sure if it's suitable, and I'd prefer an unneg=
ated form because I believe that information should be considered restricti=
ve by default.
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<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style>=
</head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -web=
kit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div id=3D"bloop_customfont" style=3D"f=
ont-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: =
0px; line-height: auto;">I much prefer a UI marker for [non-]restrictivenes=
s. That unifies a lot of stuff, providing a way to think about {ne} in term=
s of {pe}, {noi} in terms of {poi}, etc and reduces cmavo proliferation (re=
fer to the Cmavo Non-Proliferation Act of 2014, zo'o). And {ta'o} seems to =
fit.</div> <div><br></div>mu'o mi'e la durkavore<br> <div id=3D"bloop_sign_=
1438544154154543872" class=3D"bloop_sign"></div> <br><p class=3D"airmail_on=
" style=3D"color:#000;">On August 2, 2015 at 3:34:49 AM, Spheniscine (la zi=
pcpi) (<a href=3D"mailto:spheniscine@gmail.com">spheniscine@gmail.com</a>) =
wrote:</p> <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"clean_bq"><span><div><div></d=
iv><div>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">About Pxoi vs Nxoi:
<div><br></div>
<div>We *could* make say {ni'oi} Nxoi, while xoi =3D Pxoi (either
that or assign {pi'oi}, but I'm reluctant to use that cmavo space
if we aren't gonna kill {xoi}, which might be impossible to do at
this point).</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>On the other hand though, there might be a need for a UI to
mark "non-restrictive" information, since {xoi} is proposed to be
an expansion for {fi'o}, BAI, and sumtcita anyway. Thus this UI can
then be useful to mark any sumtcita place (or even, say, seltau) as
incidental information.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I *think* {ta'o} works for that purpose, but others might
disagree. There's also {ra'unai}, but I'm not sure if it's
suitable, and I'd prefer an unnegated form because I believe that
information should be considered restrictive by default.</div>
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