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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 19:10:05 -0300
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Subject: Re: [lojban] xoi and new soi as bridi relative clause
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> NON-SUBORDINATING/INDEPENDENT TAGS:
> =E2=80=A2 {mi sipna ri'a lo nu tatpi} entails {mi sipna}.
> =E2=80=A2 {mi sipna ri'a nai lo nu tatpi} entails {mi sipna}.
> =E2=80=A2 {mi citka se pi'o lo forca} entails {mi citka}.
> =E2=80=A2 {snime carvi ca nai lo nu critu} entails {snime carvi}.
>

I'm not sure I agree with this part. I admit they all appear to be strong
pragmatic entailments, especially without context, but are they logical
entailments? How would you translate, for example: "I (only) eat with a
fork. There are no forks. Therefore, I do not eat."

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Ilmen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
NON-SUBORDINATING/INDEPENDENT TAGS:<br>
=E2=80=A2 {mi sipna ri&#39;a lo nu tatpi} entails {mi sipna}.<br>
=E2=80=A2 {mi sipna ri&#39;a nai lo nu tatpi} entails {mi sipna}.<br>
=E2=80=A2 {mi citka se pi&#39;o lo forca} entails {mi citka}.<br>
=E2=80=A2 {snime carvi ca nai lo nu critu} entails {snime carvi}.<br></bloc=
kquote><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m not sure I agree with this part. I admit=
 they all appear to be strong pragmatic entailments, especially without con=
text, but are they logical entailments? How would you translate, for exampl=
e: &quot;I (only) eat with a fork. There are no forks. Therefore, I do not =
eat.&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div>=C2=
=A0</div></div></div></div>

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