Received: from mail-qk0-f190.google.com ([209.85.220.190]:34623) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZN70x-0007iA-Eq for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:18:31 -0700 Received: by qkdu126 with SMTP id u126sf12739608qkd.1 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:18:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=L9W8+0ZnzeYlDJmtZpGyYV568Cb9x4RIEXxzoVHFnA0=; b=bSvWPxrhhwWUr2zU7a8gnEHayDM+0sxOPcoI8EgRUJ/S9jF6mSG3lxsj5Is6Ym1NKu QOMYjOjqqCxSfQ8yAr5jJ5k0GG54ADPIfHueMx0i0JceX1orrWv24pDqxWYcrgdHt2un UDYP4uGp6yfHZupfBUw/LQHIFY5fFsPb8RAhm4tmWPOXxQ9WUTd3/DN+pThFD6CMbh+t Ix19i/IBZTBCs58T0DgSyR4r7XfB2dFHB5NihUiGUo+dwMafbY+BzbLfBqzTMJ2Yjk7m SwVO/E9HbWY0bLdfDCKrRZmt4WV/wu3fxjEvIzptelyjaJjosUznQSGOuVjPjahMpJt+ xO6Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=L9W8+0ZnzeYlDJmtZpGyYV568Cb9x4RIEXxzoVHFnA0=; b=ryx2K3Qld9GNGw9PtlM5QFNnRRNsSic5624ACAg6Z5rZ85GFQnLNstErXen4rntm8F 6RxxrhBDu7oqXqZIsLUrvO/8xF4Ji8C2jk6op+BUlDqit9Tif0lSAkjgkJrcWHW4BAmG cL+XI0pX2pdS3fDA4awQoTTQiZPvunt83qormaY304zKcVYLUvMYsGi0mKLDIlZLqgJZ Q+HO64cGzP3ZpB0wOlggodsPyBCzeEemmJQA9RzbCXRJme8GpluwFytxBW4K9BM9yZfb A1gx4Mg+uw4h4YRPs9nOWweZMEDoTF6iSCVh/mE0g8D8sVNFgJyktwi2tABQFy3ZkxVR 4AAw== X-Received: by 10.140.85.232 with SMTP id n95mr142255qgd.21.1438813097308; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:18:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.40.240 with SMTP id x103ls971763qgx.87.gmail; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:18:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.101.243 with SMTP id u106mr143029qge.27.1438813096904; Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 15:18:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Felipe Perez-Guevara To: lojban Cc: webmaster@kyleroucis.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3BFCA946-8A58-446D-8C14-1D49A025DDE5@kyleroucis.com> References: <3BFCA946-8A58-446D-8C14-1D49A025DDE5@kyleroucis.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] lojban for research on human-machine interfaces MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_305_770744496.1438813096495" X-Original-Sender: mperezguevara@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_305_770744496.1438813096495 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_306_1775223168.1438813096495" ------=_Part_306_1775223168.1438813096495 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 First of all, Wei and Kyle thank you for your answers. @Kyle I see the point about the grammar being unambiguous due to its parsing and the direct mapping between phonemes and graphemes also taking pronunciation ambiguity out. Nonetheless I refer to other aspects of the language or even the grammar itself in the sense of knowing how the different components were decided to stay like that. For example any sounds could have been selected to be the phonemes arbitrarily, before creating a nonambigous mapping to graphemes, or this phonemes could have been selected to maximize their auditory discrimination based on some sound variable or something like that. Also for example the grammar rules themselves must have a history due to loglan, but I just wondered if you could point me to some easy guide on the evolution of the grammatical rules selected. In general I mean some material or maybe a person to contact that could introduce me to the path of creation of the language and not just to its final state. It would be really nice if we could discuss this by voice/chat, thank you again for your guidance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_306_1775223168.1438813096495 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
First of all, Wei and Kyle thank you for your answers.
@Kyle I see the point about the grammar being unambiguous d= ue to its parsing and the direct mapping between phonemes and graphemes als= o taking pronunciation ambiguity out. Nonetheless I refer to other aspects = of the language or even the grammar itself in the sense of knowing how the = different components were decided to stay like that. For example any sounds= could have been selected to be the phonemes arbitrarily, before creating a= nonambigous mapping to graphemes, or this phonemes could have been selecte= d to maximize their auditory discrimination based on some sound variable or= something like that. Also for example the grammar rules themselves must ha= ve a history due to loglan, but I just wondered if you could point me to so= me easy guide on the evolution of the grammatical rules selected.

In general I mean some material or maybe a person to contac= t that could introduce me to the path of creation of the language and not j= ust to its final state.

It would be really nice if= we could discuss this by voice/chat, thank you again for your guidance.

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