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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pm1si77036pac.1.2015.08.12.18.50.27 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPhf0-0002VB-En for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:50:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:50:26 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] CLL v1.1: Visual commentary, please. Message-ID: <20150813015026.GC16016@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20150720074736.GE27469@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <55ACDD18.10906@gmx.de> <20150813013002.GA16016@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150813013002.GA16016@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 06:30:03PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 01:35:52PM +0200, selpa'i wrote: > > la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e > > >http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_prince_spacing_test_2015-07-20.pdf > > >is my attempt to merge everybody's thoughts about spacing. > > >Compare > > >http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_build-2015-06-20/cll_prince.pdf > > > > > >It has *MUCH* less vertical whitespace, in basically every > > >department. It also has smaller headers. And less > > >indentation. > > > > > >Sentences after examples and the like that appear to be > > >continuations (i.e. start with lower case) are not indented. > > > > > >I think that's most of it. > > > > > >Thoughts? > > > > There is too little space around the examples and cmavo tables > > now, so they almost disappear into the surrounding paragraphs. I > > don't know if it's due to a missing line break or something > > else. > > Try this: > http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_prince_spacing_test_2015-08-12.pdf Complete version: http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_prince_spacing_test_2015-08-12-full.pdf Which is 130 pages shorter than: http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_prince_for_lsi_2015-03-15.pdf -- http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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