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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eq2si318605pbb.2.2015.08.13.10.43.44 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPwXX-0001qG-Mp for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:43:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:43:43 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] CLL v1.1: Visual commentary, please. Message-ID: <20150813174343.GA7014@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20150720074736.GE27469@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <55ACDD18.10906@gmx.de> <20150813013002.GA16016@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20150813015026.GC16016@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_bar: -- That sort of thing should go in https://github.com/lojban/cll/issues (and gleki already did it for you). What do you think of the whitespace/layout? On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 08:50:38AM -0400, Michael Turniansky wrote: > I don't know if we are supposed to be proofreading (because I know the > "gicmu", etc. issue in the index was already addressed), but I just > happened to notice that on page 481, under VEI and VEhO the equation for > some reason threw a line break between n and the superscripted 2... > --gejyspa > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 06:30:03PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 01:35:52PM +0200, selpa'i wrote: > > > > la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e > > > > > > > http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_prince_spacing_test_2015-07-20.pdf > > > > >is my attempt to merge everybody's thoughts about spacing. > > > > >Compare > > > > > > > http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_build-2015-06-20/cll_prince.pdf > > > > > > > > > >It has *MUCH* less vertical whitespace, in basically every > > > > >department. It also has smaller headers. And less > > > > >indentation. > > > > > > > > > >Sentences after examples and the like that appear to be > > > > >continuations (i.e. start with lower case) are not indented. > > > > > > > > > >I think that's most of it. > > > > > > > > > >Thoughts? > > > > > > > > There is too little space around the examples and cmavo tables > > > > now, so they almost disappear into the surrounding paragraphs. I > > > > don't know if it's due to a missing line break or something > > > > else. > > > > > > Try this: > > > > > http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_prince_spacing_test_2015-08-12.pdf > > > > Complete version: > > > > http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_prince_spacing_test_2015-08-12-full.pdf > > > > Which is 130 pages shorter than: > > > > http://vrici.lojban.org/~rlpowell/media/public/cll_prince_for_lsi_2015-03-15.pdf > > > > -- > > http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u .e > > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni > > li'u > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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