Received: from mail-yk0-f184.google.com ([209.85.160.184]:32926) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWOE4-0003Gr-Rl for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:30:33 -0700 Received: by ykax124 with SMTP id x124sf16yka.0 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:30:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x_cmae_category:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=iMx140FfzNenBkp3PL3Uzcp38YRMzdU1NAvB9Ayd0e0=; b=o6juHDpQ4qM9c8fpgmhRovshPKmlMQI+oi7zNJs/n1lPzMs6JJ9iiNSx69XFkWYGlh 30elScCVt2f7w4fcFFCWQbutCjJ61XGeViuVYOOpZwmaO2Ve0mEEH2SFF6QBYqN9IM1C vWyOSiUwqiHweOjft7UZV/c1zOetuopSgx7Giot/H5NfBBVidUJEP/rj9r/J/0YsIzV0 leO9NSCESb0cF7JeeGv2j9xfqs54z5UgUZLOBj3t9808Yca8xGjkuJ2+5RdoVEfxGFFc HX372zwRd+/KOrPmSyHtarCpow02eBrzatt4Y6khkToQzu22UO9dwHfz9rJWp+ofol0R UAdQ== X-Received: by 10.182.128.196 with SMTP id nq4mr68823obb.0.1441024210855; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.55.10 with SMTP id n10ls3196834obp.36.gmail; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.129.97.2 with SMTP id v2mr25051538ywb.39.1441024210358; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.hughes.net (smtp.hughes.net. [69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l4si1035279igt.0.2015.08.31.05.30.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ZujUdbLG c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=tu8v4/BYpNWK47pT606GYA==:117 a=tu8v4/BYpNWK47pT606GYA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uRRa74qj2VoA:10 a=rUkzxPdDfRBBe4QHxyYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 173.95.140.180 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [173.95.140.180] ([173.95.140.180:52724] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 2E/FC-08210-1D844E55; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:30:09 -0400 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73F7705C for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:30:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Subject: [lojban] seca'o Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:30:08 -0400 Message-ID: <16379753.h0Xzzxiggv@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-62-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mailfrom=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - One of the questions added yesterday has the answer "seca'o". As far as I'm aware, this is ungrammatical; members of BAI may be converted with SE, which is equivalent to converting the corresponding brivla, but tense markers cannot. Related question: what is the Lojban for "tense" in the grammar sense, including spatial tenses? Pierre -- Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.