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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z4si984627wiy.3.2015.08.31.07.25.29 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::236; Received: by mail-wi0-x236.google.com with SMTP id q14so1556589wib.0 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:25:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.181.25.234 with SMTP id it10mr19874706wid.41.1441031129042; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:25:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.221.138 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:24:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14414785.X0ccYd0fi0@caracal> References: <16379753.h0Xzzxiggv@caracal> <14414785.X0ccYd0fi0@caracal> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:24:49 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] seca'o To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1136cbd88e948d051e9c34a2 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1136cbd88e948d051e9c34a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2015-08-31 17:19 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat : > On Monday, August 31, 2015 15:56:01 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > Depends on which selmaho you want to include into your definition. Are > TAhE > > tenses, is "Present Continuous" a tense or not? Is {PA roi} a tense? 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2015-08-31 17:19 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:
On Monday, August 31, 2015 15:5= 6:01 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> Depends on which selmaho you want to include into your definition. Are= TAhE
> tenses, is "Present Continuous" a tense or not? Is {PA roi} = a tense? Is
> {fi'o fadni} a tense?

TAhE are tenses, {ca ca'o} is a tense or a construction of two t= enses, {PA
roi} I think is a tense but I'm not sure, but {fi'o fadni} is not a= tense. BAI
is equivalent to {fi'o <brivla>} (except {do'e}, which is {fi= 'o co'e}) and can
be converted with SE.

Okay, then one mo= re question: are {fi'o jai ve'a tcaci}, {fi'o se ranji} and {fi= 'o jai ve'a tcaci} tenses?


Pierre
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