Received: from mail-oi0-f60.google.com ([209.85.218.60]:33950) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWQkN-0006CB-4n for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:11:52 -0700 Received: by oiex83 with SMTP id x83sf24482162oie.1 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:11:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x_cmae_category:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=0ZOqHR7EAb/GKMmqEtu6SV1ve8bnP9C0GEIR2XVoEWY=; b=W6ZIxVsHuiLeg5/ioKogswRObNP7YC4WsSRetriVPy2Id9CKFFjaBOW9PucktkWu23 tUG8VbVHSyotN8p/QpcN+rc7HjyFmcq3xDVIxekNd90SSCHcDk+ZzjvMyr8a3dlkXIas yhmA/7hVHDqmb6hyVqQUfuzv8v/xx8xYATCpfkdG9OGij4iARDuKOmQN0tF+z73PHfeg 4iXQZC+IQ/fRulB0Zl/nMbJrtNump3VreCl9khFIrDbQqWXu+tOjQHDV0nbHcGpOlKDV JsuY6m+mxv3rZVqGrQUL7igLWHEKgZxxMQ7fF9f/2DmNX9eGX9rKt2vsURq2l3KQmckB Tz8Q== X-Received: by 10.182.129.200 with SMTP id ny8mr363779obb.12.1441033901207; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:11:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.142.202 with SMTP id ry10ls3526890obb.10.gmail; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:11:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.239.21 with SMTP id k21mr26237847qhc.14.1441033900770; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.hughes.net (smtp.hughes.net. [69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a11si1062384igv.3.2015.08.31.08.11.40 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ZujUdbLG c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=tu8v4/BYpNWK47pT606GYA==:117 a=tu8v4/BYpNWK47pT606GYA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uRRa74qj2VoA:10 a=M7pneDWsyLRT1-sVHIsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qmoCrrb-1jsA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 173.95.140.180 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [173.95.140.180] ([173.95.140.180:54763] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 7B/8F-08210-CAE64E55; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:11:40 -0400 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F433150 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:11:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] seca'o Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:11:39 -0400 Message-ID: <1655146.arRor6IsMZ@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-62-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <16379753.h0Xzzxiggv@caracal> <14414785.X0ccYd0fi0@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mailfrom=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Monday, August 31, 2015 17:24:49 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Okay, then one more question: are {fi'o jai ve'a tcaci}, {fi'o se ranji} > and {fi'o jai ve'a tcaci} tenses? A {fi'o} construction of any sort is not a tense, but {ve'a} is a tense marker. Pierre -- ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.