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On Monday, August 31, 2015 19:13:21 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> The previous constucts were proposed expansions of TAhE.
>=20
> I don't think I can immediately understand which features tense markers
> must possess to be called tenses (not being able to take SE, not being ab=
le
> to work as sumtcita?) but
>=20
> what I can say that your question isn't relevant to the notion of "tense
> marker" in general but to Lojbanic understanding of it. So any new brivla
> (hopefully not cimjvo invading jvajvo space) would do.

Tense is a grammatical thing. Most languages, including Lojban, have tense.=
=20
English has a synthetic past tense marked by "-ed" in weak verbs and vowel=
=20
changes in strong verbs, and several analytic tenses, but no separate tense=
=20
markers. Chickasaw has a tense marker "tok". Tok Pisin has tense markers "b=
in"=20
and "bai" and auxiliary verbs "stap" and "pinis". (Wiktionary calls them al=
l=20
tense markers, but the last two are verbs in their own right.) What exactly=
 is=20
a tense marker has to be figured out for each language, and a particular wo=
rd=20
may change from an auxiliary to a tense marker.

In Lojban, the syntactic difference is that tense markers cannot be convert=
ed=20
with SE. Both tense markers (many selma'o) and proper prepositions (BAI) ca=
n=20
be used as prepositions.

The word I'm looking for is one for the general notion of grammatical tense=
,=20
including Lojban spatial tenses.

Pierre
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La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

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