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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x9si167365wiy.1.2015.09.01.07.34.39 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Sep 2015 07:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c; Received: by mail-wi0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id lp12so33066871wic.1 for ; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 07:34:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.218.66 with SMTP id pe2mr3965641wic.69.1441118079466; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 07:34:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.61.67 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Sep 2015 07:34:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1471868.Wk5cDk5DuI@caracal> References: <16379753.h0Xzzxiggv@caracal> <1772520.0r4z4guCtK@caracal> <1471868.Wk5cDk5DuI@caracal> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:34:00 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] seca'o To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1136d44a34c1b8051eb07365 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1136d44a34c1b8051eb07365 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-09-01 17:32 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat : > On Tuesday, September 01, 2015 09:02:03 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > Yes, that's what I'm talking. If {ka'a} can be a tense marker like {fa'a} > > or {mo'i ne'i} in some natlangs then you can't reconcile this fact with > > Lojban system. > > I don't understand. Back to the original question: what is the Lojban word > for > "tense" in the grammatical sense, including spatial tenses, and including > or > not combinations of tense and aspect? And what's the word for "aspect"? > Do they include only cmavo? Which selma'o do they cover? I'd like to know what exactly you mean by "tense" and "aspect" because personally I don't see any need in such words except for teaching purposes but then they don't need Lojban words. > Pierre > -- > gau do li'i co'e kei do > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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2015-09-01 17:32 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:
On Tuesday, Septe= mber 01, 2015 09:02:03 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> Yes, that's what I'm talking. If {ka'a} can be a tense mar= ker like {fa'a}
> or {mo'i ne'i} in some natlangs then you can't reconcile t= his fact with
> Lojban system.

I don't understand. Back to the original question: what is the L= ojban word for
"tense" in the grammatical sense, including spatial tenses, and i= ncluding or
not combinations of tense and aspect? And what's the word for "asp= ect"?

Do they include only cmavo? = Which selma'o do they cover? I'd like to know what exactly you mean= by "tense" and "aspect" because personally I don't= see any need in such words except for teaching purposes but then they don&= #39;t need Lojban words.


Pierre
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