Received: from mail-lb0-f187.google.com ([209.85.217.187]:33768) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZY6tI-0003kn-Iq for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 23:24:13 -0700 Received: by lbpo4 with SMTP id o4sf7484342lbp.0 for ; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 23:23:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=YzRUu09fN5QDke38uRS9eieNNQOxKc03Gw7q1FrzRlA=; b=dr+NO0L3Sewpq3KeUJrR5ydTrzROL+G0Jw4kr+41PtB76uhBG7ngaYc4sbVs/4OTwj 4w2ZX6AcAtpuFq8PdHwcLRqyAp0dsqxhDz7fORb17IXIZO5pMkpHPqfxHsKc3+pxwQNr y8woIxyeC0GQHCTYCIijd6NW4Wd81uX3BwoBcyI5HrTe5mb1cIKmFjkTzeHtAeCP+qK0 YoYjhucYnGza0FAQ92N6+2jOsEULGO5r3Te73zq5vwB5ZuZnFviCISna7n4Wa4yQvwCU L6aNCUAzeHrUwWkJUHHVWGegxCsz0L4pj9hU0lyrXdAeeM3CYnaJ/G63j9TT9rZN23PE 9/gA== X-Received: by 10.152.18.137 with SMTP id w9mr42156lad.16.1441434229575; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 23:23:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.6.225 with SMTP id e1ls21691laa.108.gmail; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 23:23:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.28.100 with SMTP id a4mr2068187lah.4.1441434228699; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 23:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hm7si177838wib.0.2015.09.04.23.23.48 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Sep 2015 23:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::231; Received: by mail-wi0-x231.google.com with SMTP id lk2so40648972wic.0 for ; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 23:23:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.86.72 with SMTP id n8mr15306944wjz.119.1441434228581; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 23:23:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.61.67 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 23:23:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1632394.vID1u9LHH1@caracal> References: <16379753.h0Xzzxiggv@caracal> <1772520.0r4z4guCtK@caracal> <55E5B46C.8080909@mail.jerrington.me> <1632394.vID1u9LHH1@caracal> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:23:09 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] seca'o To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0102e1022969c2051efa0fde X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e0102e1022969c2051efa0fde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-09-05 2:10 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat : > Even if Lojban doesn't have tense or aspect (which it does), we should be > able > to talk in Lojban about tense and aspect of languages which do have them. > You haven't answered which selmaho belong to tenses, which to aspects and as for other languages like with most PoS words it's ambiguity. Different language mean different things for "tense" (e.g. since when "Continuous" is tense? {ja'e} is aspect in English etc.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e0102e1022969c2051efa0fde Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= 2015-09-05 2:10 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:<= br>
Even if Lojban doesn't have tense or aspect (which it do= es), we should be able
to talk in Lojban about tense and aspect of languages which do have them.
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You haven't answered which sel= maho belong to tenses, which to aspects
and= as for other languages like with most PoS words it's ambiguity. Differ= ent language mean different things for "tense" (e.g. since when &= quot;Continuous" is tense? {ja'e} is aspect in English etc.)
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