Received: from mail-vk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:33950) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Za3pz-0005CA-RC for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:32:43 -0700 Received: by vkaw128 with SMTP id w128sf7774995vka.1 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=Z9j29lQz43Lm3un59cDvckl60Gzkea4TsVfEBgg2T54=; b=X7MYRCniT8EN1uT0EPzqKe5eT6anHcKSARhOBpvRcVF4EJGfMBhraXBWZYBqM89P31 9ybsPw75RLfE2amTmueq+zKA7qCW+pvpicFzrMCdycI61Ctdp/VBUiTKELf/CoZ8KWA9 Ey6xDuZvK6ZiilZpuzarqx5FZ1+2r+kM4ZUxwGOFFgnzYauRlKdkNdtuA+C+hVkq2jao erIpT2lnFPqLwAAxdqSi+d048ipLpr23FQ+ikixjvXdMzYE49+Tynik0SQeOORIjUqqN WjtjqjoJhTSRl8Wl2X8xUHF9RTtizRe9JJMDFtz4TLLwZhDEqfB2mCpnpWR3raH3VdU6 spKA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=Z9j29lQz43Lm3un59cDvckl60Gzkea4TsVfEBgg2T54=; b=ogH9EhZggi0b/riic+RLknB3q9Tyq/aRfhejGA9T0hP814p6fb7NreFdVBr0A+3vie JrDNACOnq1ILv7V35NFI0upjJv8onsUT3uRZb5vKmn0DAYlIq5PxqHt0aQ783HET1lHV zpF+EKgN4GTaY0wHiQ6acnZrpczDrJiJY+S3ZKljw80C0DLTUNkgwHmrrOJ7bIuTxBql 415suZa2tfHW3AHaG8ufgtHaei985yoxZ7jio2wCXlgb4FgcI1ZKDXff4phar4ficBgc sThht52eVtdq5sn4Vv4/vmNJVxWk1OW6dEe3oHORF1TXjJJTtSfjuMbqw/yiqssYD1Zt jSLw== X-Received: by 10.140.97.8 with SMTP id l8mr170033qge.35.1441899149845; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.86.52 with SMTP id o49ls859913qgd.95.gmail; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.88.170 with SMTP id t39mr241978qgd.25.1441899149147; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 08:32:28 -0700 (PDT) From: la durka To: lojban Message-Id: <95adc9f7-14ee-4325-a44c-1ba3edf62bab@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [lojban] Re: jbonunsla 2015 recap MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_649_1141178085.1441899148744" X-Original-Sender: durka42@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_649_1141178085.1441899148744 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_650_1402458434.1441899148745" ------=_Part_650_1402458434.1441899148745 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ma'a djuno ke po'o lo du'u ba'e la su'o da cu ciska tai la srilermorna soi= =20 lo nu noda tcidu kakne cu krinu iau xunai zo'oru'e (to mi du le su'o da toi) mi'e la durkavore mu'o El s=C3=A1bado, 5 de septiembre de 2015, 3:25:34 (UTC-4), mukti escribi=C3= =B3: > > For those who may interested, I=E2=80=99ve written up a brief review of m= y=20 > experience of this year=E2=80=99s jbonunsla, which took place last weeken= d (August=20 > 28-30) at the Holiday Inn in Princeton, New Jersey. > > > I took the train from New York City, arriving in Princeton fairly late=20 > Friday night. Pierre Abbat (who had driven up from North Carolina) and Ma= rk=20 > Shoulson (=E2=80=9Cclsn=E2=80=9D, who lives nearby) had arrived some time= before me, and=20 > wandered down to join me in the restaurant just before it closed. I was= =20 > excited to meet these two, who are the second and third lojbanists whom I= =20 > had ever met in person. > > > I had corresponded with Pierre over the last year while making some small= =20 > additions to the Lojban Bible translation project that Pierre maintains:= =20 > https://github.com/phma/lojban-bible > > > Mark I knew mostly from reading old message board threads where he=20 > introduced the =E2=80=9Cdotside=E2=80=9D notation:=20 > https://mw.lojban.org/papri/BPFK:_Old_Morphology > > > I think Pierre was the first to speak lojban: He=E2=80=99s mastered a num= ber of=20 > lojban tongue twisters. (Pierre, are those collected anywhere?) tsani=20 > arrived some time later, having trained down from Montr=C3=A9al, and it w= as then=20 > that we started to jbota=E2=80=99a in earnest. (to ki=E2=80=99e la tsani = toi) > > > Saturday morning, I found Pierre already at work preparing the meeting=20 > room. He had created construction paper letters using the initials B=20 > (be=E2=80=99a), D (du=E2=80=99a), N (ne=E2=80=99a), V (vu=E2=80=99a) to m= ark the cardinal directions in the=20 > room. Suitably oriented, we played a recording of the lojban anthem ( > https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Lojban_Anthem) to mark the beginning of the= =20 > conference. Welcome to lojbanistan! fi=E2=80=99i do=E2=80=99o > > > Pierre brought his concertina, =E2=80=9CTina=E2=80=9D, and I brought my g= uitar, so we=20 > played a few songs, including bits from Djemynai=E2=80=99s album (e.g. = =C2=ABnasa=C2=BB) and=20 > some songs Pierre had translated such as =C2=ABdoi cevni do'u .au mi jbiz= e'a=20 > do=C2=BB (=E2=80=9CNearer, My God, To Thee=E2=80=9D). > > > durka42 arrived from Philadelphia in time to join the the CLL edit-a-thon= =20 > which connected, via Skype and IRC, those of us in the Princeton with=20 > Robin, Ilmen, mezohe and others. We managed to review quite a few chapter= s,=20 > and to iterate with Robin on the solution to some widespread formatting= =20 > issues. durka incorporated the latest changes in the automatic build that= =20 > he hosts: http://alexburka.com/lojban/prince.php > > > Work on preparing CLL for reprint continues, as can be seen by the list o= f=20 > issues on github: https://github.com/lojban/cll/issues > > > Brian Wernham of NooLearn, who had just flown in from London, arrived=20 > towards the end of the edit-a-thon, and helped us eat some delivery pizza= .=20 > Then lojbab and noras logged into the #lojban channel on IRC for a chat i= n=20 > lojban and English. > > > At some point during the chat, we played =C2=ABlo jbobau cu mo=C2=BB ( > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DN-Y9eBBTrxU) and Djemynai=E2=80=99s new= est song,=20 > =C2=ABtensa=C7=90a=C2=BB (https://djemynai.bandcamp.com/album/tensaia) an= d clsn opined=20 > that lojban, with it=E2=80=99s comparatively short words and rhyme and st= ress=20 > patterns is well-suited for rap. > > > Nora was asked if she had anything to do with =C2=ABfanmo jimte=C2=BB, a = remarkable=20 > film on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJ_nKJW_KuK4) which is= =20 > narrated in lojban and attributed to a =E2=80=9CNora Lee=E2=80=9D. Nora s= aid that was=20 > someone else. (On Sunday, I found some more information about the film an= d=20 > added it to the Lojban timeline:=20 > https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Lojban_timeline#2008) > > > tsani had the attendees at the conference sign his copy of la xuncku. One= =20 > of the attendees included a message written in srilermorna script ( > https://mw.lojban.org/papri/srilermorna). > > > After dinner, we watched and discussed videos in lojban including =C2=ABl= o=20 > cizra zarci=C2=BB (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMmtQ0NcVFjI) an orig= inal=20 > story in lojban by tsani, read by selpa=E2=80=99i, and a few episodes of = bripre=20 > jikca (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc6fXtgkPdWQ). We also had to bid= =20 > farewell to durka42. > > > Activities commenced after breakfast on Sunday morning with an=20 > international chat via Mumble, which included a few rounds of =C2=ABla re= no=20 > preti=C2=BB. Good fun. > > > Then, with Brian=E2=80=99s assistance, attendees in Princeton and elsewhe= re via=20 > Internet (e.g. selpa=E2=80=99i, Ilmen, Broca) signed into NooLearn=E2=80= =99s servers ( > https://noolearn-staging.herokuapp.com/) to write and review hundreds of= =20 > questions in and about Lojban, renewing efforts to devise a Lojban=20 > proficiency exam. As a follow-up, Pierre has asked for volunteers to join= =20 > LBCK (lojbo bangu cipra kamni) to continue this work:=20 > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lojban-lbck > > > We said farewell to Brian Sunday afternoon, and I returned to Brooklyn=20 > Sunday evening. > > > I was glad to have the opportunity to meet lojbanists in person, and to= =20 > participate in exchanges between lojbanists of many generations, includin= g=20 > founders, and those around the world. I was also inspired by revisiting a= nd=20 > sharing the songs, stories and videos that people have created with lojba= n,=20 > and by the work of people contributing to efforts such as LBCK and the=20 > republication of CLL. > > > Thank you to Pierre for taking the initiative to organize jbonunsla, to= =20 > Brian for helping to sponsor jbonunsla, and for making NooLearn available= =20 > to us as a resource, to Robin for heading up the CLL edit-a-thon, to Bob= =20 > and Nora for joining us in IRC, and to everyone else who attended or=20 > participated in jbonunsla. If anyone else would like to contribute toward= s=20 > the cost of jbonunsla, please feel free to do so via LLG=E2=80=99s PayPal= donation=20 > form: http://tiki.lojban.org/tiki/Donations > > > =E2=80=94Riley > > mu=E2=80=99o mi=E2=80=99e la mukti > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_650_1402458434.1441899148745 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ma'a djuno ke po'o lo du'u ba'e la su'= o da cu ciska tai la srilermorna soi lo nu noda tcidu kakne cu krinu iau xu= nai zo'oru'e

(to mi du le su'o da toi)
=

mi'e la durkavore mu'o

El s=C3=A1bado, 5= de septiembre de 2015, 3:25:34 (UTC-4), mukti escribi=C3=B3:

For those who may interested, I=E2=80=99ve written up a brief review of = my experience of this year=E2=80=99s jbonunsla, which took place last weeke= nd (August 28-30) at the Holiday Inn in Princeton, New Jersey.


I took the train from New York City, arriving in Princeton fairly late F= riday night. Pierre Abbat (who had driven up from North Carolina) and Mark = Shoulson (=E2=80=9Cclsn=E2=80=9D, who lives nearby) had arrived some time b= efore me, and wandered down to join me in the restaurant just before it clo= sed. I was excited to meet these two, who are the second and third lojbanis= ts whom I had ever met in person.


I had corresponded with Pierre over the last year while making some smal= l additions to the Lojban Bible translation project that Pierre maintains: = https://github.com/phma/lojban-bible


Mark I knew mostly from reading old message board threads where he intro= duced the =E2=80=9Cdotside=E2=80=9D notation: https://mw.lojban.org/papri/BPFK:_Old_Morph= ology


I think Pierre was the first to speak lojban: He=E2=80=99s mastered a nu= mber of lojban tongue twisters. (Pierre, are those collected anywhere?) tsa= ni arrived some time later, having trained down from Montr=C3=A9al, and it = was then that we started to jbota=E2=80=99a in earnest. (to ki=E2=80=99e la= tsani toi)


Saturday morning, I found Pierre already at work preparing the meeting r= oom. He had created construction paper letters using the initials B (be=E2= =80=99a), D (du=E2=80=99a), N (ne=E2=80=99a), V (vu=E2=80=99a) to mark the = cardinal directions in the room. Suitably oriented, we played a recording o= f the lojban anthem (https://mw.lojban.org/p= apri/Lojban_Anthem) to mark the beginning of the conference. Welco= me to lojbanistan! fi=E2=80=99i do=E2=80=99o


Pierre brought his concertina, =E2=80=9CTina=E2=80=9D, and I brought my = guitar, so we played a few songs, including bits from Djemynai=E2=80=99s al= bum (e.g. =C2=ABnasa=C2=BB) and some songs Pierre had translated such as =C2=ABdoi cevni do'u .au mi jbize'a do=C2=BB (=E2=80=9CNearer, = My God, To Thee=E2=80=9D).


durka42 arrived from Philadelphia in time to join the the CLL edit= -a-thon which connected, via Skype and IRC, those of us in the Princeton wi= th Robin, Ilmen, mezohe and others. We managed to review quite a few chapte= rs, and to iterate with Robin on the solution to some widespread formatting= issues. durka incorporated the latest changes in the automatic build that = he hosts: http://alexburka.com/lojban/prince.php


Work on preparing CLL for reprint continues, as can be seen by the= list of issues on github: https://github.com/lojban/cl= l/issues


Brian Wernham of NooLearn, who had just flown in from London, arrived to= wards the end of the edit-a-thon, and helped us eat some delivery pizza. Th= en lojbab and noras logged into the #lojban channel on IRC for a chat in lo= jban and English.


At some point during the chat, we played =C2=ABlo jbobau cu mo=C2=BB (https://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DN-Y9eBBTrxU) and Djemynai=E2=80=99s newest song, = =C2=ABtensa=C7=90a=C2=BB (https://djem= ynai.bandcamp.com/album/tensaia) and clsn opined that lojban, with= it=E2=80=99s comparatively short words and rhyme and stress patterns is we= ll-suited for rap.


Nora was asked if she had anything to do with =C2=ABfanmo jimte=C2=BB, a= remarkable film on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJ_nKJW_KuK4) which i= s narrated in lojban and attributed to a =E2=80=9CNora Lee=E2=80=9D. Nora s= aid that was someone else. (On Sunday, I found some more information about = the film and added it to the Lojban timeline: https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Lojban_timeline= #2008)


tsani had the attendees at the conference sign his copy of la xuncku. On= e of the attendees included a message written in srilermorna script (https://mw.lojban.org/papri/srilermorna).


After dinner, we watched and discussed videos in lojban including =C2=AB= lo cizra zarci=C2=BB (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMmtQ0NcVFjI) an original st= ory in lojban by tsani, read by selpa=E2=80=99i, and a few episodes of brip= re jikca (https:= //www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dc6fXtgkPdWQ). We also had to bid farew= ell to durka42.


Activities commenced after breakfast on Sunday morning with an internati= onal chat via Mumble, which included a few rounds of =C2=ABla re no preti= =C2=BB. Good fun.


Then, with Brian=E2=80=99s assistance, attendees in Princeton and elsewh= ere via Internet (e.g. selpa=E2=80=99i, Ilmen, Broca) signed into NooLearn= =E2=80=99s servers (https://noolearn-staging.hero= kuapp.com/) to write and review hundreds of questions in and about Lojb= an, renewing efforts to devise a Lojban proficiency exam. As a follow-up, P= ierre has asked for volunteers to join LBCK (lojbo bangu cipra kamni) to co= ntinue this work: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lojban-lbck=


We said farewell to Brian Sunday afternoon, and I returned to Brooklyn S= unday evening.


I was glad to have the opportunity to meet lojbanists in person, and to = participate in exchanges between lojbanists of many generations, including = founders, and those around the world. I was also inspired by revisiting and= sharing the songs, stories and videos that people have created with lojban= , and by the work of people contributing to efforts such as LBCK and the re= publication of CLL.


Thank you to Pierre for taking the initiative to organize jbonunsla, to = Brian for helping to sponsor jbonunsla, and for making NooLearn available t= o us as a resource, to Robin for heading up the CLL edit-a-thon, to Bob and= Nora for joining us in IRC, and to everyone else who attended or participa= ted in jbonunsla. If anyone else would like to contribute towards the cost = of jbonunsla, please feel free to do so via LLG=E2=80=99s PayPal donation f= orm: http://tiki.lojban.org/tiki/Donations


=E2=80=94Riley

mu=E2=80=99o mi=E2=80=99e la mukti

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;lojban" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsub= scribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http:= //groups.google.com/group/lojban.
For more options, visit http= s://groups.google.com/d/optout.
------=_Part_650_1402458434.1441899148745-- ------=_Part_649_1141178085.1441899148744--