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[69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n7si487934iga.3.2015.10.11.19.58.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=eJ8q0hZ1 c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=tu8v4/BYpNWK47pT606GYA==:117 a=tu8v4/BYpNWK47pT606GYA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=5lJygRwiOn0A:10 a=K2NI1QuHYSxuPLGAG44A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 173.95.140.180 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [173.95.140.180] ([173.95.140.180:57106] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 10/CF-03826-9B12B165; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 22:58:01 -0400 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BCB7F58 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 22:58:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] CLLv1.1 goes out on Monday, 12 Oct 2015 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 22:58 -0400 Message-ID: <5334419.fmPojl9FqS@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-65-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <3866214.9joFFaomEp@caracal> References: <20151010033327.GC13991@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <3866214.9joFFaomEp@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mailfrom=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Sunday, October 11, 2015 09:57:58 Pierre Abbat wrote: > I don't think there is. In my idiolect, which is a mix of different Ameri= can > dialects without the cot-caught merger, /o/ is diphthongized except befor= e > /r/, /=C9=94/ is distinct, and /o/ and /=C9=92/ contrast except before /r= /. Rhotic > speakers may have trouble separating /o/ from following /r/. Non-rhotic > dialects do something different with /or/. On further thought, how about "boll"? I have twelve vowels (not counting=20 phonemic diphthongs and r-colored vowels) and a word for each preceded by /= b/=20 and followed by /l/. However, some speakers may pronounce it the same as=20 "bowl", diphthongizing it. Pierre --=20 loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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