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Subject: Re: [lojban] 2015 Annual Meeting of the Logical Language Group, Inc
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On 12 Oct 2015 15:20, "selpa'i" <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:38:09 PM UTC+2, And Rosta wrote:
>>
>> The main duties of LLG members are, unofficially:
>> 1. Attending meetings (= email discussion) and paying attention.
>> 2. Electing the Board of Directors.
>> 3. Participating in a spirit of friendship to Lojban.
>>
>> There is no stigma at all to proposing oneself for membership. LLG
membership is a form of not very onerous service to the community.
>>
>> Volunteers for candidacy for election to the Board are also very
welcome, if the candidacy is coupled with a sincere and realizable
intention to make a useful contribution to the work of the LLG, and to
fairly consistently participate in the deliberations of the Board. We're
also going to need a new Vice-president, since the current one, by his own
admission, is not really up to scratch. Board membership, and holding one
of the named offices, is a somewhat more onerous form of service to the
community, and there has been a shortage of volunteers. The consequent
detriment to the community is not so much in vital tasks not getting done,
for all the vital stuff is done, heroically, by Robin, but rather in the
forgone opportunity to do additional useful stuff.
>
>
>  What do you consider useful stuff that the Board could do,

I'm too marginal to community activity to be able to comment usefully. The
vital stuff (keeping Lojban.org running and getting CLL 1 to PoD), Robin is
doing, fortunately. I'd had vague ideas about things like coordinating the
updated CLL and having a panoptic view of community activity, sort of like
Lojbab 20 years ago and Robin ten, but nothing I want to argue for. What
would you consider useful? If you think there's nothing useful the Board
can do, that would change my thinking about it; it would be quite
reassuring to learn that the general ineffectuality of the Board is due it
having no potential useful function, rather than to inadequacies of any
officer.

> and how does it compare to the (in my opinion) very valuable work of
teachers, translators, artists, learners, and people involved in defining
the language (e.g. BPFK)?

I think if there's anything that involves concerted coordinated collective
effort then it's often useful to have designated leaders, and board
elections offer a convenient opportunity to confer community approbation on
volunteer candidate leaders.

But anyway, your answers to your questions are much more important than
mine. You're central to the community and have a much better sense of what
it does and doesn't need, and I'll be guided by your better judgement.

I'm here answering with my ill-fitting vice-presidential hat on. With it
off, I'd say, in answer to your question, that BPFK is of paramount
importance, and BPFK leadership the key role, to get it working through the
ton of stuff it needs to work through.

--And.

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<p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On 12 Oct 2015 15:20, &quot;selpa&#39;i&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seladwa=
@gmx.de">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:38:09 PM UTC+2, And Rosta wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The main duties of LLG members are, unofficially:<br>
&gt;&gt; 1. Attending meetings (=3D email discussion) and paying attention.=
<br>
&gt;&gt; 2. Electing the Board of Directors.<br>
&gt;&gt; 3. Participating in a spirit of friendship to Lojban.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; There is no stigma at all to proposing oneself for membership. LLG=
 membership is a form of not very onerous service to the community.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Volunteers for candidacy for election to the Board are also very w=
elcome, if the candidacy is coupled with a sincere and realizable intention=
 to make a useful contribution to the work of the LLG, and to fairly consis=
tently participate in the deliberations of the Board. We&#39;re also going =
to need a new Vice-president, since the current one, by his own admission, =
is not really up to scratch. Board membership, and holding one of the named=
 offices, is a somewhat more onerous form of service to the community, and =
there has been a shortage of volunteers. The consequent detriment to the co=
mmunity is not so much in vital tasks not getting done, for all the vital s=
tuff is done, heroically, by Robin, but rather in the forgone opportunity t=
o do additional useful stuff.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =C2=A0What do you consider useful stuff that the Board could do, </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m too marginal to community activity to be able to com=
ment usefully. The vital stuff (keeping Lojban.org running and getting CLL =
1 to PoD), Robin is doing, fortunately. I&#39;d had vague ideas about thing=
s like coordinating the updated CLL and having a panoptic view of community=
 activity, sort of like Lojbab 20 years ago and Robin ten, but nothing I wa=
nt to argue for. What would you consider useful? If you think there&#39;s n=
othing useful the Board can do, that would change my thinking about it; it =
would be quite reassuring to learn that the general ineffectuality of the B=
oard is due it having no potential useful function, rather than to inadequa=
cies of any officer.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">&gt; and how does it compare to the (in my opinion) very val=
uable work of teachers, translators, artists, learners, and people involved=
 in defining the language (e.g. BPFK)?</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I think if there&#39;s anything that involves concerted coor=
dinated collective effort then it&#39;s often useful to have designated lea=
ders, and board elections offer a convenient opportunity to confer communit=
y approbation on volunteer candidate leaders. </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">But anyway, your answers to your questions are much more imp=
ortant than mine. You&#39;re central to the community and have a much bette=
r sense of what it does and doesn&#39;t need, and I&#39;ll be guided by you=
r better judgement.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m here answering with my ill-fitting vice-presidential=
 hat on. With it off, I&#39;d say, in answer to your question, that BPFK is=
 of paramount importance, and BPFK leadership the key role, to get it worki=
ng through the ton of stuff it needs to work through.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">--And.<br><br></p>

<p></p>

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