Received: from mail-oi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]:33214) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZqlGP-0007Pt-1j for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:09:00 -0700 Received: by oies6 with SMTP id s6sf36085423oie.0 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:08:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=BoKQ7H+y1vtg2EYOGqfQWyCigfdgUcJx3+vgvzkONbU=; b=CAwLeFXo18OiMF3x+huVftarX6VVHmOKVFt5IN+V31/W0yw7/cbBrJRA2JuFP8R+Zl TjJYy8AOCDsj6f0TePE+dtk1Ryet/lGXL1PxPMwTh7lElGI9eVWS3BduezoiXp5U6jkT sxqY3o4aTzS8O+0KLmoLpVFC+YG/hDZ1RjosqUzs44PGgoQI3Wl6NTzm6qF2gDk15WdD Tx3VYhS/3X9h1lSr3RSZ9Spgm0+XVCVf/UeLZOnyWbxypojOcJEKYtbn+GblmiGEoOQf rBsJ0B/dJKHOE9PRxP28HuQZE6DoXqLLZItSwlnAzrHgIyCGW7MyQLDs4r9mcHbODRa/ RAOg== X-Received: by 10.50.32.37 with SMTP id f5mr12029igi.10.1445879327142; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:08:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.88.42 with SMTP id bd10ls912909igb.27.gmail; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.102.106 with SMTP id fn10mr16369176pab.5.1445879326665; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jerrington.me (jerrington.me. [192.99.166.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u202si984761ywf.5.2015.10.26.10.08.46 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jake@mail.jerrington.me designates 192.99.166.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.99.166.45; Received: from [142.157.113.97] (web113097.Wireless.McGill.CA [142.157.113.97]) by jerrington.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BCDB714781A for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [lojban] Frankfurt To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <1666236.qQqzFxhgCo@caracal> <562D1220.2000900@gmx.de> From: Jacob Errington Message-ID: <562E5E69.5090801@mail.jerrington.me> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:10:01 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Original-Sender: jake@mail.jerrington.me X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jake@mail.jerrington.me designates 192.99.166.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jake@mail.jerrington.me Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 10/26/2015 01:50 AM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > When did it become illegal to have final consonant clusters in names? > Never. > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:32 PM, selpahi wrote: > > la .piier. cu cusku di'e > > How would you Lojbanize "Frankfurt"? To me the best option seems > to be > ".frankyfuryt." > > > There are two types of cmevla in Lojban: jbocme, which consist only > of lojbanic syllables, and zifcme, which are just a string of > phonemes that don't violate any phonotactic constraints (e.g. > voicing rules, invalid clusters etc) but ignore syllabic structure. > > {.frankfurt.} is a valid zifcme, but not a jbocme, because it > contains syllables whose coda contains more than one consonant. > Since {.frankfurt.} is a zifcme, and zifcme are a subclass of cmevla, there's no problem here. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.