Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:00:26 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: [lojban] Re: Can't understand the humour within CLL Chapter 16's  picture
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Le lundi 23 novembre 2015 18:48:32 UTC, Rui Liu a =C3=A9crit :
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> As a non-native English speaker, I can't get the humour in the picture of=
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> Chapter 16 of CLL, as well as its caption ... Why there're dogs? Why=20
> mention 'example'?  And how is this related to the title of this chapter?
>
> Thanks~
>

I'm not a native English speaker, but I would like to try to help you.

Section 7 of Chapter 16 includes some example sentences of "three dogs bite=
=20
two men." The people in the picture ask John (Cowan, the author) to=20
use other example (rather than dogs biting them) because they don't want to=
=20
be bitten.

For your info that may help you in translating the Complete Lojban Language=
=20
(CLL) into Chinese:

1. the whole content of CLL including Chapter 16 should be modified in the=
=20
future version in order to conform the renewed official theory on=20
quantifier called {xorlo}:
https://mw.lojban.org/papri/How_to_use_xorlo
I wrote a commentary on xorlo in a more understandable form:
https://mw.lojban.org/papri/gadri:_an_unofficial_commentary_from_a_logical_=
point_of_view

2. I participated the translation of CLL into Japanese:
http://ponjbogri.github.io/cll-ja/
My translation is only the chapters 3,6,9,12,15,18,21 of them, but I added=
=20
many "notes by the translator" to my translation. Some of the notes,=20
especially on the chapters 15 and 18 may help you much. If you don't=20
understand my Japanese text, or machine translation from the Japanese text,=
=20
don't hesitate to ask me in Chinese. My spoken Chinese is not very fluent,=
=20
but I can read and write in Chinese without any problem.

mu'o mi'e la guskant

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>Le lundi 23 novembre 2015 18:48:32 UTC, Rui Liu a =
=C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margi=
n-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>As a non-native English speaker, I can&=
#39;t get the humour in the picture of Chapter 16 of CLL, as well as its ca=
ption ... Why there&#39;re dogs? Why mention &#39;example&#39;? =C2=A0And h=
ow is this related to the title of this chapter?</div><div><br></div><div>T=
hanks~</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m not a native Eng=
lish speaker, but I would like to try to help you.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Section 7 of Chapter 16 includes some example sentences of &quot;three dog=
s bite two men.&quot; The people in the picture ask=C2=A0John (Cowan, the a=
uthor) to use=C2=A0other example (rather than dogs biting them) because the=
y don&#39;t want to be bitten.</div><div><br></div><div>For your info that =
may help you in translating the Complete Lojban Language (CLL) into Chinese=
:</div><div><br></div><div>1. the whole content of CLL including Chapter 16=
 should be modified in the future version in order to conform the renewed o=
fficial theory on quantifier called {xorlo}:</div><div>https://mw.lojban.or=
g/papri/How_to_use_xorlo</div><div>I wrote a commentary on xorlo in a more =
understandable form:</div><div>https://mw.lojban.org/papri/gadri:_an_unoffi=
cial_commentary_from_a_logical_point_of_view<br></div><div><br></div><div>2=
. I participated the translation of CLL into Japanese:</div><div>http://pon=
jbogri.github.io/cll-ja/<br></div><div>My translation is only the chapters =
3,6,9,12,15,18,21 of them, but I added many &quot;notes by the translator&q=
uot; to my translation. Some of the notes, especially on the chapters 15 an=
d 18 may help you much. If you don&#39;t understand my Japanese text, or ma=
chine translation from the Japanese text, don&#39;t hesitate to ask me in C=
hinese. My spoken Chinese is not very fluent, but I can read and write in C=
hinese without any problem.</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la g=
uskant</div><div><br></div></div>

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