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Why there're dogs? Why=20 >> mention 'example'? And how is this related to the title of this chapter= ? >> >> Thanks~ >> > > I'm not a native English speaker, but I would like to try to help you. > > Section 7 of Chapter 16 includes some example sentences of "three dogs=20 > bite two men." The people in the picture ask John (Cowan, the author) to= =20 > use other example (rather than dogs biting them) because they don't want = to=20 > be bitten. > > For your info that may help you in translating the Complete Lojban=20 > Language (CLL) into Chinese: > > 1. the whole content of CLL including Chapter 16 should be modified in th= e=20 > future version in order to conform the renewed official theory on=20 > quantifier called {xorlo}: > https://mw.lojban.org/papri/How_to_use_xorlo > I wrote a commentary on xorlo in a more understandable form: > > https://mw.lojban.org/papri/gadri:_an_unofficial_commentary_from_a_logica= l_point_of_view > > 2. I participated the translation of CLL into Japanese: > http://ponjbogri.github.io/cll-ja/ > My translation is only the chapters 3,6,9,12,15,18,21 of them, but I adde= d=20 > many "notes by the translator" to my translation. Some of the notes,=20 > especially on the chapters 15 and 18 may help you much. If you don't=20 > understand my Japanese text, or machine translation from the Japanese tex= t,=20 > don't hesitate to ask me in Chinese. My spoken Chinese is not very fluent= ,=20 > but I can read and write in Chinese without any problem. > > mu'o mi'e la guskant > > The lines of the "notes by the translator" are tagged with "#" on each=20 corresponding page.=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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Le mardi 24 novembre 2015 00:00:27 UTC, guskant a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:=


Le lu= ndi 23 novembre 2015 18:48:32 UTC, Rui Liu a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Hi everyone,

As a non-native English speaker, I can't get the humour in the picture= of Chapter 16 of CLL, as well as its caption ... Why there're dogs? Wh= y mention 'example'? =C2=A0And how is this related to the title of = this chapter?

Thanks~

I'm not a native English speaker, but I would like to t= ry to help you.

Section 7 of Chapter 16 includes s= ome example sentences of "three dogs bite two men." The people in= the picture ask=C2=A0John (Cowan, the author) to use=C2=A0other example (r= ather than dogs biting them) because they don't want to be bitten.

For your info that may help you in translating the Com= plete Lojban Language (CLL) into Chinese:

1. the w= hole content of CLL including Chapter 16 should be modified in the future v= ersion in order to conform the renewed official theory on quantifier called= {xorlo}:
I wrote a commentary on xo= rlo in a more understandable form:

2. I participat= ed the translation of CLL into Japanese:
My translation is only the chapte= rs 3,6,9,12,15,18,21 of them, but I added many "notes by the translato= r" to my translation. Some of the notes, especially on the chapters 15= and 18 may help you much. If you don't understand my Japanese text, or= machine translation from the Japanese text, don't hesitate to ask me i= n Chinese. My spoken Chinese is not very fluent, but I can read and write i= n Chinese without any problem.

mu'o mi'e l= a guskant


The li= nes of the "notes by the translator" are tagged with "#"= ; on each corresponding page.=C2=A0

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