Received: from mail-qk0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:34638) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1a5mjr-0003Ef-My for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:45:56 -0800 Received: by qkdb5 with SMTP id b5sf10202855qkd.1 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:45:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=kK7uPu00StgALy9+H4TsgZv46Grqy5rZfcJbfMC+DmQ=; b=vmgnlnSg14MvYXvQjt+o+s3O7nr+jpU1AvbQXvfP6y361m+i36dlKWUCWlAP4i4BOe woPqDvFLuLznImXCHoqAKhUs7wYpom3SbQB+tIBWQvjFivVcj5D6y8jtX85F4+UJswT2 voquQ7vJpfURQLx+uPcWia87922RY4Jturp2S7bs8j6AjpzhzSQEmzf8AcSIcrDXAD7g zy5ZZZSbhAaN40Rj7ozmmu614WTwhPjlLCJCIudXfhPXrZtCclxUXK0fyyYLb/Aah0v6 xnCU4G9G11QIIHc9/hL8V4tBua25L8qXorxWV4FwU/MNAPNNwToaMj2zhFKtiB7/SRTS PFtQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=kK7uPu00StgALy9+H4TsgZv46Grqy5rZfcJbfMC+DmQ=; b=WOFiQC8iLoOgaHaOvd2JMGbwXH9vGQ4xCv0wsAHxT01Lmg7UiTxOSGn3Ly3IlYeL9m vo0VaEH8GPVL1jYKqKAxJYM6VEH6LzmVskgDlcSuWstJXg5menoIMtt99jxaR91lHZ4a Cgw7aMRP1wRie0Qma4W/TAlj7iOPg9dbQ/taIWVYHuL8L9SvlQMUUIP+88flFRXmE8Zw nzXTOy6oRXzi+Xd6iVbi35FfpDLYmZhjkvmvwWJJ2IAGZiE3S/4AHy+u6FVVxawdnkMq fT2vaYm1/297FnnAdkpPPsOMSJrxV+OUSgBXPidPZp9u3JtMF0enY8WhnIl2Fsl2ddFF BGDA== X-Received: by 10.140.32.11 with SMTP id g11mr485692qgg.4.1449459917809; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:45:17 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.103.182 with SMTP id y51ls2124910qge.5.gmail; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:45:17 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.98.168 with SMTP id o37mr484893qge.11.1449459917167; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:45:17 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:44:54 -0800 (PST) From: Rui Liu To: lojban Message-Id: <57fc2430-e84d-4efd-8eb5-2a5fde8fbf38@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Question about tanru and lujvo invention MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_4586_2130883792.1449459894644" X-Original-Sender: edenish.fallen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_4586_2130883792.1449459894644 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4587_1549258962.1449459894656" ------=_Part_4587_1549258962.1449459894656 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi everyone, I came up with a question related to tanru and lujvo invention, but not sure how this is solved in lojban. CLL says tanru can have multiple possible meanings, but only one of them can be assigned to lujvo. But what if two meanings are equally important? Assuming that they cannot be expressed (properly) with other tanru. For example, cadzu mroxadni (walking corpse) can mean zombie, but also (more artistically) someone who's not living a meaningful life. For me, both of the meanings are interesting, it seems a pity to lose either of it. So I wonder is there some way to record both concepts down? More generally, how to assign different "shortcuts" (like lujvo) to different meanings of a single tanru? Thanks Rui Liu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_4587_1549258962.1449459894656 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,

I came up with a ques= tion related to tanru and lujvo invention, but not sure how this is solved = in lojban.

CLL says tanru can have multiple possible meanings, but o= nly one of them can be assigned to lujvo. But what if two meanings are equa= lly important? Assuming that they cannot be expressed (properly) with other= tanru.

For example, cadzu mroxadni (walking corpse) can mean zombie= , but also (more artistically) someone who's not living a meaningful li= fe. For me, both of the meanings are interesting, it seems a pity to lose e= ither of it.

So I wonder is ther= e some way to record both concepts down? More generally, how to assign diff= erent "shortcuts" (like lujvo) to different meanings of a single = tanru?

Thanks

Rui Liu

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