Received: from mail-io0-f190.google.com ([209.85.223.190]:33023) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1a6EYC-0007CT-Gs for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 01:27:34 -0800 Received: by iofh3 with SMTP id h3sf4568074iof.0 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 01:27:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=J0L8n2x3geFSskrUnYL7FJkMrRu49Ap/wgOtdY/20UA=; b=tKqmG4STNTvoLCHcjIdmUXnuiZMicRIH6A2fXGPHL3XfnkCER6XBlKffwJCI9wfISn bZ0P90AdbhdE6qMTejedTyDz/x14tC6Giv80aGiJlBtnrxRkcYNouSRUYPo2usoNejDe 9yXQGYLMnaHZSumhV2QN4NPQLlvomXVlxW/GcxsJIe7btzBCEhNPu0WA7MGuskNtfbqo cxFAPU3UP1Dd5Lf0u/UTC3s+ddlD2mDcePvTn+3oO0wS8lMcCbL8RXT42XaTFy4e7L/O CcNL9rP87RZYgyHLm25oJ1akCMLDnCoSE5CNbVcbWMXC+zXzHQUXCW+z38I0P9rkOi8P K0tw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=J0L8n2x3geFSskrUnYL7FJkMrRu49Ap/wgOtdY/20UA=; b=QIIf4Rt9ReYobu+E7OqNWWFc8+uGymVyUPUN5LfYlbqYFoko5uXhraz9Lpsjw18w7v BcGOc285CbxLTXXLFdx8jw/WijlKN4Kh4B4C4cLkD4znfew491PzLIZ2VNBtYfiAnY6Y q6kXE4W2LSetwrM2BNLGXaFcLUaBujRtDiiFyl5xUP/31IT3MKaeGPk4/Pr84AdZLjuA QkattAJEU6ryLBmwS6+jJd3X1lK1h1cfMetN964b/qCYTl/N7Hp2f8S4rbLnhPZQDloW EGaecTkyznxokQ8WljTELLSitaNlaKrO7lkVL4t5Q391cDbZqPam2KLN4NIAQRFcaN9g AS8w== X-Received: by 10.140.91.56 with SMTP id y53mr31255qgd.14.1449566826329; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 01:27:06 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.101.139 with SMTP id u11ls176693qge.87.gmail; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 01:27:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.93.51 with SMTP id c48mr31854qge.0.1449566824843; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 01:27:04 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 01:27:04 -0800 (PST) From: Rui Liu To: lojban Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <57fc2430-e84d-4efd-8eb5-2a5fde8fbf38@googlegroups.com> <585c322e-bfd9-4855-94fb-7ba0816c0250@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Question about tanru and lujvo invention MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1701_972794242.1449566824304" X-Original-Sender: edenish.fallen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_1701_972794242.1449566824304 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1702_79846789.1449566824305" ------=_Part_1702_79846789.1449566824305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sorry, by cultural accumulation I mean like every major culture would have poem and prose existing through the history, within which a lot of idioms and phrases were created. And that becomes part of the language as well (the most interesting part I think). I didn't expect lojban would reach the same level since it has only a history of less than a hundred years. But I wonder if it's flexible enough to reach it. Except for lujvo, is there other ways to create (long) phrases in lojban? My English might sound a bit strange I guess. Maybe it's better to do it in lojban? Something like klusumji (culture sum)? :) On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 6:15:58 AM UTC, la gleki wrote: > > > 2015-12-08 2:13 GMT+03:00 Rui Liu >: > >> I just started my exploration in lojban, so I still have I lot of >> confusion, as well as some suspicion on whether this language can provide >> at least the same function we have in natural languages >> > > communication? :) Then it certainly happens since fluent speakers of > Lojban exist. > > , except for cultural accumulation. I don't know if there's a way to >> analyse one particular language's literary value (in which I'm most >> interested), but I will keep on my learning and hopefully can answer some >> of my own questions. >> > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1702_79846789.1449566824305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry, by cultural accumulation I mean like every major cu= lture would have poem and prose existing through the history, within which = a lot of idioms and phrases were created. And that becomes part of the lang= uage as well (the most interesting part I think). I didn't expect lojba= n would reach the same level since it has only a history of less than a hun= dred years. But I wonder if it's flexible enough to reach it. Except fo= r lujvo, is there other ways to create (long) phrases in lojban?

My English might sound a bit strange I guess. Maybe it's bette= r to do it in lojban? Something like klusumji (culture sum)? :)
On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 6:15:58 AM UTC, la gleki wrote:

2015-12-08 2:13 GMT+03:00 Rui Liu <edenish...@g= mail.com>:
I just star= ted my exploration in lojban, so I still have I lot of confusion, as well a= s some suspicion on whether this language can provide at least the same fun= ction we have in natural languages

co= mmunication? :) Then it certainly happens since fluent speakers of Lojban e= xist.

, except for = cultural accumulation. I don't know if there's a way to analyse one= particular language's literary value (in which I'm most interested= ), but I will keep on my learning and hopefully can answer some of my own q= uestions.


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