Received: from mail-lb0-f188.google.com ([209.85.217.188]:33438) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1aHv2M-00020x-PV for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:02:47 -0800 Received: by mail-lb0-f188.google.com with SMTP id tz10sf84564336lbb.0 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:02:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=e5Fez7uITTOiNSKQ5R33WyOgzA0TVfa0ZWN/jqaFVss=; b=sgrDkgM7ZOKUYbMvIRjPuxyJRF52pY/9hqg7nNxmOxyFj0eg8KSB1mISLimqsS0NQQ Rkk2sq5gihP6HC1mO3pBBU2pFByOmGKI7YNQE+LyMU9Jey9l9M/5u71zYOeLUI5fq9cL eKmgWqLo9pAS3oHLmGysWIKMVmRXgb4AZEMjQKPp6rPyjQu4Mr7FT7Lwm3MCHxjqyPUs Yf3Av91q0M2W8785GGjYSe4pAAT7rXOh4voa3WLmJJsCUKt1kR/vmw698DyYBZMZcV1J P8xe9/IooKFAlt+tuHAq953vQiMq40llcL5ArcWysrxy0oOhQ15Y5NsOG7CV158O7WUb E82Q== X-Received: by 10.25.159.77 with SMTP id i74mr117434lfe.9.1452351751162; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:02:31 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.25.29.11 with SMTP id d11ls2075883lfd.2.gmail; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:02:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.234.225 with SMTP id uh1mr13117710lbc.1.1452351750236; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x233.google.com (mail-wm0-x233.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c09::233]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d185si96754wmf.0.2016.01.09.07.02.30 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::233 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c09::233; Received: by mail-wm0-x233.google.com with SMTP id l65so165106781wmf.1 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:02:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.28.176.131 with SMTP id z125mr4687600wme.5.1452351750034; Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:02:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.92.136 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jan 2016 07:01:50 -0800 (PST) From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 18:01:50 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] about the default language on mw.lojban.org To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141e05c265e440528e7fef0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1141e05c265e440528e7fef0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Earlier I changed the default language on mw.lojban.org to English because 1. Google didn't always correctly displayed English versions of the wiki. Falling back to English is nicer for it (who are we to challenge its algorithms) 2. Most pages are in English so using Translate Extensions to translate pages via it would become easier. Finally if you think that it's not good to have the default language other than Lojban (and I myself think it's not good) we have another wiki that is much much better for enriching the corpus of texts. It's jbo.wikipedia.org I suggest using it for purely Lojban articles. As for mw.lojban.org it's mostly not even worth translating articles on it, most of them are either of historical interest or for speakers of English. Finally I can see that some search engines are able to select mediawiki's pages in other languages. But Google doesn't seem to catch on. If anyone has any ideas feel free to share them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a1141e05c265e440528e7fef0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Earlier I changed the default language on mw.lojban.org to English because
1. Google didn= 9;t always correctly displayed English versions of the wiki. Falling back t= o English is nicer for it (who are we to challenge its algorithms)
2. Most pages are in English so using Translate Extensions to translate p= ages via it would become easier.

Finally if you th= ink that it's not good to have the default language other than Lojban (= and I myself think it's not good) we have another wiki that is much muc= h better for enriching the corpus of texts.

It'= ;s jbo.wikipedia.org I suggest usi= ng it for purely Lojban articles.

As for mw.lojban.org it's mostly not even worth = translating articles on it, most of them are either of historical interest = or for speakers of English.

Finally I can see that= some search engines are able to select mediawiki's pages in other lang= uages. But Google doesn't seem to catch on. If anyone has any ideas fee= l free to share them.

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