Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 03:17:29 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: [lojban] Re: garbage, in sense computing
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You've been posting a lot of similar questions on "How to say X in Lojban?"
While I'm not sure how to express this word in particular after translating=
=20
two IT-related projects to Lojban=20
I can say that translating individual words in them is in may cases futile.

The true meaning of words is usually discovered in relations between them=
=20
after you grasped the whole project.
So after initial preliminary translations I checked the translations again=
=20
to find that many words had been translated by me incorrectly.
So all in all I had to perform several iterations before the translation=20
got more or less non-self-contradictory.

So for this and other questions I can only recommend first creating short=
=20
dictionaries with English words and their English definitions.
For texts in other languages you may replace or add columns in those=20
languages.

Then the result would be more useful.

Em quinta-feira, 7 de janeiro de 2016 22:34:06 UTC+3, Pierre Abbat escreveu=
:
>
> Several days ago I was investigating a malfunction in one of my programs.=
=20
> A=20
> subroutine was returning numbers close to 1e-317 for the control points o=
f=20
> a=20
> B=C3=A9zier spline. That number is garbage. (The correct value is about 2=
00.)=20
>
> The program erroneously calculated the minimum as 50.6 or so and put it i=
n=20
> an=20
> array of four numbers which it returned to another routine. The routine=
=20
> used=20
> the first and last to calculate an overall minimum and an overall maximum=
,=20
> ignoring the middle two. The middle two are festi.=20
>
> What's the Lojban for "garbage", in the computing sense?=20
>
> Pierre=20
> --=20
> li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa=20
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">You&#39;ve been posting a lot of similar questions on &quo=
t;How to say X in Lojban?&quot;<div>While I&#39;m not sure how to express t=
his word in particular after translating two IT-related projects to Lojban=
=C2=A0</div><div>I can say that translating individual words in them is in =
may cases futile.</div><div><br></div><div>The true meaning of words is usu=
ally discovered in relations between them after you grasped the whole proje=
ct.</div><div>So after initial preliminary translations I checked the trans=
lations again to find that many words had been translated by me incorrectly=
.</div><div>So all in all I had to perform several iterations before the tr=
anslation got more or less non-self-contradictory.<br><br>So for this and o=
ther questions I can only recommend first creating short dictionaries with =
English words and their English definitions.</div><div>For texts in other l=
anguages=C2=A0you may=C2=A0replace or add columns in those languages.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Then the result would be more useful.</div><div><br>Em =
quinta-feira, 7 de janeiro de 2016 22:34:06 UTC+3, Pierre Abbat  escreveu:<=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;bord=
er-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Several days ago I was investig=
ating a malfunction in one of my programs. A=20
<br>subroutine was returning numbers close to 1e-317 for the control points=
 of a=20
<br>B=C3=A9zier spline. That number is garbage. (The correct value is about=
 200.)=20
<br>
<br>The program erroneously calculated the minimum as 50.6 or so and put it=
 in an=20
<br>array of four numbers which it returned to another routine. The routine=
 used=20
<br>the first and last to calculate an overall minimum and an overall maxim=
um,=20
<br>ignoring the middle two. The middle two are festi.
<br>
<br>What&#39;s the Lojban for &quot;garbage&quot;, in the computing sense?
<br>
<br>Pierre
<br>--=20
<br>li fi&#39;u vu&#39;u fi&#39;u fi&#39;u du li pa
<br>
<br></blockquote></div></div>

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