Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:37:00 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [lojban] garbage, in sense computing
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Le mardi 12 janvier 2016 02:12:08 UTC, Pierre Abbat a =C3=A9crit :
>
>
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 12:24:36 Stela Selckiku wrote:=20
> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Pierre Abbat <ph...@bezitopo.org=20
> <javascript:>> wrote:=20
> > > What's the Lojban for "garbage", in the computing sense?=20
> >=20
> > .i da'i mi cusku zo maldatni=20
>
> pe'i zo srekradatni xagmau .iku'i ri prane ju'ocu'i=20
>
> "garbage" can mean erroneous data, as in "Garbage in, garbage out". It ca=
n=20
> mean more specifically data of one kind interpreted as another kind, such=
=20
> as an=20
> eight-letter word interpreted as a double, or an angle (encoded as an=20
> integer)=20
> interpreted as an elevation (also encoded as an integer). An unrelated=20
> meaning=20
> is "temporary locations no longer used, but still allocated until=20
> reclaimed by=20
> the garbage collector", as in Lisp. This is a kind of festi.=20
>

=20
i pe'i zoi zoi garbage in zoi fa'u zoi zoi garbage out zoi cu sinxa lo du'u=
=20
mabla lo ka fe fa'u fi pruce jo'au zantufa [1,2]
i zo malselru'e jo'u zo malteryru'e cu ka'e sinxa xai

ni'o doi .ie la piier joi la selckiku zo srekradatni ja zo maldatni ji'a=20
mapti va'o lo te tavla fi la piier
i ku'i cu'u ji'a la piier zoi zoi garbage zoi no'u lo skami valsi cu su'a=
=20
ka'e vrici lo ka sinxa ce'u
i ti'e mu'a jo'u gi lo datni gi lo fancu gi lo stura gi lo mo'isro cu ka'e=
=20
se sinxa zoi zoi garbage zoi [3]
fi'o se sitna la'o zoi=20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_(computer_science)=20
zoi
i za'a ro go'i cu na'e se pilno lo skami su'o da
i ji'u la'e di'u zo samnalselpli cu mapti lo ka xe fanva zoi zoi garbage=20
zoi pe lo skami

ni'o ku'i mi na'e darlu lo du'u zoi zoi garbage zoi cu e'i se fanva fu pa d=
a
i pe'i ro da zifre lo nu va'o lo smuvanbi cu cuxna lo mapti lujvo gi'a=20
tamgau lo cnino lujvo gi'a pilno zo za'e


Le lundi 11 janvier 2016 17:25:07 UTC, la stela selckiku a =C3=A9crit :
>
> .i .i'o .a'u preti ki'e la vonxlu=20
> mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o=20
> fa'o=20


ni'o ta'o sai ji'u ma la piier cu se cmene zo vonxlu la selckiku

mu'o la piier joi la selckiku mi'e la guskant fa'o=20
[1] http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.11.html
[2] https://mw.lojban.org/papri/zantufa_ze'oi_FA
[3] https://mw.lojban.org/papri/zantufa_jonma'o#lo_li.27erla.27i_jonma.27o

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<br><br>Le mardi 12 janvier 2016 02:12:08 UTC, Pierre Abbat a =C3=A9crit=C2=
=A0:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex=
;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><br>On Monday, January 11,=
 2016 12:24:36 Stela Selckiku wrote:
<br>&gt; On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Pierre Abbat &lt;<a href=3D"javasc=
ript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"4Q9pvzctBwAJ" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;" onclic=
k=3D"this.href=3D&#39;javascript:&#39;;return true;">ph...@bezitopo.org</a>=
&gt; wrote:
<br>&gt; &gt; What&#39;s the Lojban for &quot;garbage&quot;, in the computi=
ng sense?
<br>&gt;=20
<br>&gt; .i da&#39;i mi cusku zo maldatni
<br>
<br>pe&#39;i zo srekradatni xagmau .iku&#39;i ri prane ju&#39;ocu&#39;i
<br>
<br>&quot;garbage&quot; can mean erroneous data, as in &quot;Garbage in, ga=
rbage out&quot;. It can=20
<br>mean more specifically data of one kind interpreted as another kind, su=
ch as an=20
<br>eight-letter word interpreted as a double, or an angle (encoded as an i=
nteger)=20
<br>interpreted as an elevation (also encoded as an integer). An unrelated =
meaning=20
<br>is &quot;temporary locations no longer used, but still allocated until =
reclaimed by=20
<br>the garbage collector&quot;, as in Lisp. This is a kind of festi.
<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>i pe&#39;i zoi zoi garbag=
e in zoi fa&#39;u zoi zoi garbage out zoi cu sinxa lo du&#39;u mabla lo ka =
fe fa&#39;u fi pruce jo&#39;au zantufa [1,2]</div><div>i zo malselru&#39;e =
jo&#39;u zo malteryru&#39;e cu ka&#39;e sinxa xai</div><div><br></div><div>=
ni&#39;o doi .ie la piier joi la selckiku zo srekradatni ja zo maldatni ji&=
#39;a mapti va&#39;o lo te tavla fi la piier</div><div>i ku&#39;i cu&#39;u =
ji&#39;a la piier zoi zoi garbage zoi no&#39;u lo skami valsi cu su&#39;a k=
a&#39;e vrici lo ka sinxa ce&#39;u</div><div>i ti&#39;e mu&#39;a jo&#39;u g=
i lo datni gi lo fancu gi lo stura gi lo mo&#39;isro cu ka&#39;e se sinxa z=
oi zoi garbage zoi [3]</div><div>fi&#39;o se sitna la&#39;o zoi https://en.=
wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_(computer_science)=C2=A0</div><div>zoi</div><div=
>i za&#39;a ro go&#39;i cu na&#39;e se pilno lo skami su&#39;o da</div><div=
>i ji&#39;u la&#39;e di&#39;u zo samnalselpli cu mapti lo ka xe fanva zoi z=
oi=C2=A0garbage zoi pe lo skami</div><div><br></div><div>ni&#39;o ku&#39;i =
mi na&#39;e darlu lo du&#39;u zoi zoi garbage zoi cu e&#39;i se fanva fu pa=
 da</div><div>i pe&#39;i ro da zifre lo nu va&#39;o lo smuvanbi cu cuxna lo=
 mapti lujvo gi&#39;a tamgau lo cnino lujvo gi&#39;a pilno zo za&#39;e</div=
><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Le lundi 11 janvier 2016 17:25:07 UTC, =
la stela selckiku a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: =
rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;">.i .i&#39=
;o .a&#39;u preti ki&#39;e la vonxlu=C2=A0<br>mi&#39;e la stela selckiku mu=
&#39;o=C2=A0<br>fa&#39;o=C2=A0</blockquote><div><br></div><div>ni&#39;o ta&=
#39;o sai ji&#39;u ma la piier cu se cmene zo vonxlu la selckiku</div><div>=
<br></div><div>mu&#39;o la piier joi la selckiku mi&#39;e la guskant fa&#39=
;o=C2=A0</div><div>[1] http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.11.ht=
ml</div><div>[2] https://mw.lojban.org/papri/zantufa_ze&#39;oi_FA</div><div=
>[3] https://mw.lojban.org/papri/zantufa_jonma&#39;o#lo_li.27erla.27i_jonma=
.27o</div></div><div><br></div>

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