Received: from mail-ob0-f185.google.com ([209.85.214.185]:34558) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1aIzbr-0007Id-1N for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 06:07:51 -0800 Received: by mail-ob0-f185.google.com with SMTP id q2sf78225228obl.1 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 06:07:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x_cmae_category:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=HElH/Y4hyKCb+IIdKliFipaKmnxi2nVsb4EZXcp8c28=; b=H9kCqZf7O0IoUktIuFsdbJ7MuCpYI/mISzoz5s/DDGRltHAMvOpYndpoqNgTmg/w4J ffqjoisbi+fILi7bSwvY1Oylpl6late6xZt5ZnNjT4gyoVbB7apLlFhfNwYHbtS9eMAg nc1L+KB9g6JhwvJoKxXMH/ylxhf7f+0SOyvl/HfakpgP7nNcyarMyVORN50HgilnKPYy etK4TPefgOh2smqIexH0sT67uk3pSP72lekgslEnZNmO2582PN4bafOLkCWGg2wXH+r4 M3IRL9a1XrEP5rj5pz9GSQ70pPXtdVNbxFFZbLbeRc5RhI5zu1y1ERe/CWwXLCPW84HE f3cA== X-Received: by 10.182.246.105 with SMTP id xv9mr144652obc.2.1452607657219; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 06:07:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.96.163 with SMTP id dt3ls6310916obb.79.gmail; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 06:07:36 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.236.4 with SMTP id uq4mr120068961obc.3.1452607656762; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 06:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.hughes.net (smtp.hughes.net. [69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kr4si1633818igb.0.2016.01.12.06.07.36 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Jan 2016 06:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=AP42JC7R c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:117 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=7aQ_Q-yQQ-AA:10 a=UFcVx1laGH9YbKahwl8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=tBhNBxq2yCsA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 174.109.123.133 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [174.109.123.133] ([174.109.123.133:45197] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id E5/69-13212-8A805965; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:07:36 -0500 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D432A7463 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:07:33 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] garbage, in sense computing Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:07:31 -0500 Message-ID: <1677415.Qdgex1KT7Q@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-74-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <2990562.nfK24Emr7g@caracal> <1823808.8FlBqU0qJm@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mailfrom=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 09:13:58 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Via translating single words without getting the big picture the only thing > we can get is yet another Hungarian or yet another Hebrew. But for that I > can learn those languages, not Lojban. Discussion should include the big picture. Neither Hungarian nor Hebrew started with a base of an unambiguous grammar. Pierre -- ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.