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[2a00:1450:4010:c07::234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jx10si241051lbc.2.2016.01.22.10.33.38 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::234 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c07::234; Received: by mail-lf0-x234.google.com with SMTP id c192so52373806lfe.2 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:33:38 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.25.81.133 with SMTP id f127mr1592180lfb.141.1453487618832; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:33:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.4.1 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:33:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6f919681-f16c-4888-aa5a-30518a717c12@googlegroups.com> <569F85BF.8030909@gmx.de> <8805e2d3-4389-460c-9e5b-b0d5194da1c2@googlegroups.com> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:33:09 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {cukta} as a case study for why the dictionary needs clearer, more detailed entries To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::234 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=selckiku@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:48 AM, Timothy Lawrence wrote: > > a process be established to revise a few words every week to 100% completion > of the template It's possible this could be a beneficial project. But I just want you to think of the plain numbers: A few words a week is 150ish a year, or a DECADE LONG PROJECT to clarify the meanings of the original gismu. We don't actually have any clear vision of where Lojban will be many years from now or what we'll all being that whole time such that we could coherently make a plan to do something consistently for a decade. (Also new words are being introduced at a rate faster than that, so if the goal were to eventually get to all of the words and not just the ancient gismu we'd actually be losing ground.) A realistic pace as far as getting through the list would be more like a dozen a day, which would get us through the whole list in a few months. But that's intense!? What are we going to do, lock a team of Lojbanists in a room for months working on it full time?! Most people wouldn't have the time to comment at all on a dozen definitions a day, let alone having real discussions to reach consensus about them all. > My presumption was that the dictionary was intended to be prescriptive, not > descriptive as per other dictionaries, but I may be wrong. I'm just trying > to get involved in Lojban. They absolutely were intended to be prescriptive. But the prescription has in many cases not been followed! So where is your God now. :/ <3, mungojelly/selckiku -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.