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[2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kr4si602738igb.0.2016.01.22.21.45.00 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230; Received: by mail-ig0-x230.google.com with SMTP id ik10so4978914igb.1 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:45:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.79.137 with SMTP id j9mr6702874igx.63.1453527900568; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.39.215 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.39.215 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 21:45:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6f919681-f16c-4888-aa5a-30518a717c12@googlegroups.com> <569F85BF.8030909@gmx.de> <8805e2d3-4389-460c-9e5b-b0d5194da1c2@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 22:45:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {cukta} as a case study for why the dictionary needs clearer, more detailed entries From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a0c1e2f44190529f9d6b1 X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --089e013a0c1e2f44190529f9d6b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Prefect WAS in quotes, so I'm fairly certain the author was aware that actual objective perfection is not possible and was not what was meant. 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Prefect WAS in quotes, so I'm fairly certain the author = was aware that actual objective perfection is not possible and was not what= was meant.

On Jan 22, 2016 22:40, "Gleki Arxokuna"= ; <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.= com> wrote:
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2= 016-01-23 4:16 GMT+03:00 Timothy Lawrence <timothy.lawre= nce@connect.qut.edu.au>:
Another idea is to focus on making the Lojban = definitions "perfect" and then using machine translation to gener= ate the other-language definitions (which could then be reviewed if desired= ).

That's impossible since perfect lang= uages don't exist. If one could make English definitions perfect then E= nglish could be immediately called a perfect language abandoning any need i= n any other languages.

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